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Old 04-15-2007, 04:09 AM
kabz kabz is offline
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At a live tournament:
76 players
buy in: 200 usd
prizes: 7 places paid
1-5400 usd
2-2700
3-1680
4-1050
5-650
6-390
7-260

6 players remaining
Blinds: 500/1000
I had 26,000 in chips

UTG (46,000) raises 3000
UTG+1 (30,000) calls
Cut off: I have J10s (hearts) I call ( any comment on my call)
Button: (CHIP LEADER 80,000) calls
SB folds
BB folds

players mostly aggressive at flop
preflop a lot of limping,

4 players
pot 17,500

Flop: Kh Qh 6d

UTG bets 6000
UTG+1 FOLDS
I GO ALL IN 21,000
BUTTON FOLDS

WHAT DO U THINK OF MY ACTION?

THX
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:29 AM
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NO INTEREST?
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:31 AM
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Topic title doesn't really tell us anything. Postflop is standard, not sure on the preflop call with the stacks as they are.

[edit - misread preflop action, thought it was limped to you, not a raise and call. Calling here looks bad, I'd either simply fold it or shove if they've been loose preflop]
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:40 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Pf - Probably a fold. An UTG raise and UTG+1 call is pretty strong. I like a shove better than a call.

Flop - Super automatic and standard push. Anything else is just wrong.
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:45 AM
Shocker101 Shocker101 is offline
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I don't call raises often with J10 I like to be the one raising with it.
After the flop I would push and hope they fold.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:07 AM
kabz kabz is offline
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but since players were passive before the flop, and there were a lot of limping i figured out that with the button likely to call after me i was getting a good price to flop something big.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:38 AM
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Preflop looks OK. I'm usually playing a little tighter as a short-stack - I'd prefer to be first in or reraising AI (but not with this hand) - but with the call between you and the big stack likely to call behind on the button with any two cards, it's a nice hand to see a flop with for this price.

On this flop you have to push. You have a huge draw and a chance to make a big stack (and some real money) if it comes in. Even if he's betting with a real hand you have around 50% equity against his range. You should also have some FE - the weak lead suggests that he's either very strong or willing to give up easily.

Board: Kh Qh 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.909% 50.91% 00.00% 19656 0.00 { QQ+, 66, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 49.091% 49.09% 00.00% 18954 0.00 { JhTh }
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:27 PM
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Pre-flop I fold. As played, on the flop, with the pot @ 13,500 (4x 3,000+1,500) plus 6,000 I smooth call and hope the button comes along.

You don't have any fold equity with a shove and your OESFD is way too strong to fold. I would just commit to the hand by calling the flop and getting the rest in on the turn.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:51 AM
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thx everyone for ur input
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:15 AM
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I absolutly hate the pf call, i used to do this, but not any more. You have called off 1/8th of your stack, and even if you hit, you will not win enough to make up for when you dont, because you are not deep enough

You mentioned that the table was passive, then someone utg raises to a large % of your stack.\

At least there was another caller in front of you, which is vvv good for sc and small pps.

The comment ' got a good price to flop something big' is not good. WIth sc and small pps, you want to get in cheap, with little likely hood of a raise, and some money behind to win when you hit (which is vvv rare). You didnt get in cheap, and there wasnt enough behind to win

On flop, this is a flop that has hit the utg raiser. He prolly had AA, KK, or Ak or AQ, and you have a flush draw.

If he had checked to you, then you could shove it, but I think you are behind, and need to just think about the pot odds. You have to call 6k to win 23k, plus some implied odds.

Just realised you have a st8fd, so yep, just shove the puppy
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