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Old 10-08-2007, 11:58 AM
TheBad TheBad is offline
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Default Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

BB is 75/0 after 20 Hands.
MP1 is 35/6 after 30 hands.
Stats are loose, but there was no crazy betting.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($13.20)
SB ($3.80)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($12.55)</font>
UTG ($10)
MP1 ($5.25)
MP2 ($4.95)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($11.85)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.6</font>, BB calls $1.60, MP1 calls $1.20.

Turn: ($6.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $10.55</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $5.75 (All-In).

River: ($25.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $25.76

PF: I have position, so i just call.
Flop: I make it potsize and hope to take it right here.
Turn: Ugly. Still, giving a free card seems really bad to me. I´m still ahead often enough, right ?
After the raise, with theese Odds, i have to call right ?

Is this a good spot to loose it all with TPTK ? I still like my play, because i hate the weak-tight approach [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:12 PM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

When you hate the weak tight approach, why just flat call PF? I def raise here IP, makes the hand easier to play.
On the turn, I don't know if I call his shove. Basically, you don't beat anything except a lower A like AQ, AJ or you split with AK. On the other hand your odds are pretty good, you have to call 5.75 to win a 25.76 pot. Still, I wouldn't except you to be good here very often.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:51 PM
SMACK BOOTY SMACK  BOOTY is offline
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

Your turn bet commits you to this hand, so you need to make a decision before you bet whether or not your going to the felt against these two w/ TPTK.
In this situation, I check the turn and try to see a cheap river, but thats me, I'm trying to limit my donations with TPTK or overpair at low stakes online.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:15 PM
SammyG-SD SammyG-SD is offline
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

AK is a powerful hand...preflop in position, so reraise whenever this is possible.

As played, after he callse the PSB, he probably has TPTK beat, so you are either way behind or way ahead, I would probably go for pot control after this (with no draw), and try to get a cheap showdown.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

I would 3bet this all day against these opponents. Then most of it can all go in on the flop with no worries.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

I figured I would scroll down and see everyone screaming to 3-bet preflop.

Why are you wanting to encourage the super loose guy to fold? Call and let him into the hand. You will have a good SPR on MP1 on top of it and you will be able to outplay the BB.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

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I figured I would scroll down and see everyone screaming to 3-bet preflop.

Why are you wanting to encourage the super loose guy to fold? Call and let him into the hand. You will have a good SPR on MP1 on top of it and you will be able to outplay the BB.

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What does he do with turn and river then?
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

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I would 3bet this all day against these opponents. Then most of it can all go in on the flop with no worries.

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+1
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

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I figured I would scroll down and see everyone screaming to 3-bet preflop.

Why are you wanting to encourage the super loose guy to fold? Call and let him into the hand. You will have a good SPR on MP1 on top of it and you will be able to outplay the BB.

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What does he do with turn and river then?

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If the villains stats are true then he isn't doing this turn c/r with less than two-pair.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:37 PM
SammyG-SD SammyG-SD is offline
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Default Re: Supposed to loose my stack here ? AKo, NL10

-agreed, if we had a larger sample size. With that said, a 3bet is still a good idea with those stats on the villians, they both are calling stations, and we are in position, time to punish them. If they lead into an aggressor post flop, then I would be thinking two pair or better; but as played, I think you have to reraise on the flop and then re-evaluate.
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