NL25: att to steal, do i give up? - Page 2

PJo336 · #11 11-14-2007, 11:28 PM

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I'm confused about PF. Given your read that he's calling raises very lightly, why do you want to steal w/ a marginal hand OOP?

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K7 can actually crush his range and hes horrid post flop, so i wanna play as many hands with him as possible

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Fair enough. If we count K's as 1 out to discount him having an A then you have 10 outs worth of equity here. With implied odds you could probably c/c a small bet and hope to stack him him you hit the flush on the river.

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doesnt that make my hand look like a draw and get me less implied odds on the river?

doppelganger · #12 11-14-2007, 11:29 PM

Hmm...I suppose so. Yeah, b/f is probably better and costs the same since we can c/f the river if we miss.

PJo336 · #13 11-14-2007, 11:31 PM

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Hmm...I suppose so. Yeah, b/f is probably better and costs the same since we can c/f the river if we miss.

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Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($11.50)
Hero ($60.55)
BB ($36.60)
UTG ($18.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

River: ($11) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.5, Hero ??

i dont like a guy with low aggression calling 2 barrels then betting. Do i count my K as a winner?

edit: but its sooooo smallll!!!

creamfillin · #14 11-14-2007, 11:34 PM

This turn bet is like handing away money, make it like 4$ or more if you're going to bet. I can't imagine anyone folding to it after calling on the flop. I wouldn't call this river because it reeks of an ace getting value.

PJo336 · #15 11-14-2007, 11:35 PM

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This turn bet is like handing away money, make it like 4$ or more if you're going to bet. I can't imagine anyone folding to it after calling on the flop. I wouldn't call this river because it reeks of an ace getting value.

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i feel like 3 has ~ the same fe as 4, either he has Ax or Qx or he doesnt. I agree about the river but i think the turn bet gives a good set up to cash in on a good river

doppelganger · #16 11-14-2007, 11:37 PM

Heh. Yeah I can't fold to a bet that small, especially if you could be inducing a bluff from a Q.

Damn fool probably has TJ though.

PJo336 · #17 11-14-2007, 11:40 PM

ooo this may also be applicable, from about 20 hands prior

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($88.85)
SB ($30.72)
Hero ($43.85)
UTG ($18)
MP ($54.86)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2.

Turn: ($6.60) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $5, UTG calls $5.

River: ($16.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $26.60

dlorc · #18 11-14-2007, 11:44 PM

Pjo, can you post his name? Would help w/ reads and such.

PJo336 · #19 11-14-2007, 11:45 PM

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Pjo, can you post his name? Would help w/ reads and such.

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PFHCKY9

first time i ever saw him btw

kaz2107 · #20 11-14-2007, 11:52 PM

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Hmm...I suppose so. Yeah, b/f is probably better and costs the same since we can c/f the river if we miss.

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Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($11.50)
Hero ($60.55)
BB ($36.60)
UTG ($18.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

River: ($11) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.5, Hero ??

i dont like a guy with low aggression calling 2 barrels then betting. Do i count my K as a winner?

edit: but its sooooo smallll!!!

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preflop and flop seem fine to me. turn i think i like a check. u r typically behind on the turn and as u said given ur image and read i cant image we have much FE so i think i check and see wut he does.

now on the river as played i think u have to fold. he would have to bluff a lot in this place and i dont see him doin this nearly enough to make a call good here given how their really isnt a big draw out their for him to make it to the river without an A or better

idk it seems to me that whenever i make these calls im shown Ax like everytime