Will YOU pick up a hand you folded?

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I've pulled back cards that have crossed the betting line without a problem.

One time I even pulled them after the dealer took my unmoved hand and but they were easily retrievable and I called the hand. It was a chopped all-in (one card full-house), so I was busy pulling back my bet. I didn't flip my cards, so dealer thought I was bluffing even though I said several statements and actions that would follow a chop. I don't blame the dealer (much), but it was a bit aggressive of him to take them without first asking for the cards.

I don't believe in the magic muck touch principle or muck motion that you often here at the tables.

[riverspecialist]

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An example of a poll that can't possibly be accurate.

"Talk is cheap". A lot of people are SAYING they'd let it go, but I imagine that many of them would ACT differently, if put to the test for real money.

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not eveyrone is a "professional." people do so many horrible things at the table that indicate that money is clearly not the determining factors of how they behave. occasionally after beign check youll see someone say "i have the nuts" and flip it over just cause they like you(if this has never happened to you, read on) and other bs like this. drunks tip dealers $100 chips, etc.

In regards to the OP, I think ive made the mistake in the past. But its been years since. For various reasons, after the last round of betting i immediately flip my hand over and announce it as if its a winner ("i have the 8" if its 8 high has no reasonable chance) as soon as its my turn.

If the dealer isnt pushing the game and everyone is waiting for everyone else to show first ill get it started. It speeds up the game. Showing trash helps get you paid later. You will keep the fish in a gambling mood, instead of a cutthroat dog-eat-dog informational battle. If you think you lose an edge this way (in most games) you are probably a nit and should just get a job or you're playing higher than 25/50 nl and probably arent reading this (or need to work on your game selection). If it matters, youll probably already know what most people have and would rather not tax (psychologically) the superfish by making them show the horrible trash they'd called with let alone give the table coach a chance to lecture/berate them about it.

In the long run i think this will help you learn to stay level ahead of people too. Consciously and/or subconsciously youll start switch your marginal decisions to exploit how people expect you to play (because of what yous howed last time) if they adapt and which players will even bother to adapt.

show your hand quickly. dont remind people that a battle is taking place and they wont bother to fight.

[riverspecialist]

heres an anecdote i meant to include was from a long time ago at a 5/10 game at harrahs. a draw heavy flop got capped about 6+ ways then checked down after every draw missed. first to act i flipped over my eight high and announced it just as mentioned in the post above and everyone shook their heads and tossed their hands into the muck. I dont mind this EV but i specifically dont want to be an angler so i tried o stop people from mucking "wait my eight doesnt even play! stop folding. table your hand!" no one did. After the pot was pushed to me i said "the board is 2 pair, ace high. does anyone want part of this pot?" and no one said a word as the dealer collected the cards and dealt the next hand.