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08-16-2006, 07:25 AM
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Re: (Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???
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He open limps UTG, he makes a minbet on the flop, he check-minraises on the turn, and you want us to believe he's a TAG? [/ QUOTE ] LOL excellent point =) He's tight for party anyway, but not "AG". Villain is TAR/TAM/TAD/TAS however you want to say it. 
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08-16-2006, 07:31 AM
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Re: (Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???
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[ QUOTE ] Knowing what Hero has may help us figure out villain's hand. [/ QUOTE ] Villain doesn't know Hero's cards. There's no reason for us to know when we try to assign a range to villain. [/ QUOTE ] I just figure if we have 44 for example, it sort of helps us.
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#13
08-16-2006, 08:20 AM
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Re: (Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Knowing what Hero has may help us figure out villain's hand. [/ QUOTE ] Villain doesn't know Hero's cards. There's no reason for us to know when we try to assign a range to villain. [/ QUOTE ] I just figure if we have 44 for example, it sort of helps us. [/ QUOTE ] I was trying to reduce results-orientedness in the replies "Yeah he might have the str8 but u can't fold ur set ZOMG!" - I wanted honest evaluations of his ranges, which IMO lean heavily to JT in this situation, enough to possibly fold my set to further aggression. Hero had 44, your pattern mapper works goot LOL!
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#14
08-16-2006, 08:35 AM
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Re: (Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???
Good post - I like not knowing hero's hand as it encourages people to focus on what villain's range is.
This is pretty weirdly played by villain but my stab is: Straight - 45 Very likely. He tries to price himself in on the flop, but calls hero's raise closing the action. Standard donk c/r minraise when hits. Inherently more likely than 44 (i.e. 16 ways to make the hand as against 3, although the offsuit ones should be discounted). Trips - 35 Also very likely (only 44 not KK or QQ). In this case the $1 bet was a weak lead to induce action. This is probably more consistent with the action than a straight, but less ways to make the hand etc. Two pair - 10 Unlikely, but K9s or Q9s are possible hands he might limp UTG and play this way on the flop and turn. AA /AK - 5 Just possible a whiffed LRR would play this way with AA. AK about never I think. Top Pair mid/low kicker - 0 - or some v small %. This seems highly unlikely. His line was either trapping on the flop, or was weak on the flop and improved on the turn. I don't see him playing weak on the flop and very strong on the turn with this sort of hand. Other / Air - 5 Can't rule it out but I think he'd either reraise big on the flop or c/c flop and c/r turn if he was going to make a move.
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08-16-2006, 08:45 AM
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Re: (Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???
Could be a lot of things but in order...
Straight: j10 here would be my first guess. Trips: Yeah since he is tight, but wierd flop line meaning hes a donk Two pair: Kind of a wierd line but I dont know..yes if he is a donk. AA: how he played the hand he is most likely a donk TP: very wierd but possible air: probally not messing around here but depends on opponent Basically the more of a donkey he is opens up more things for the bottom of my list. More tight/solid he is then its most likely straight-two-pair-set (why a solid player min bets this flop i have no idea?)
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