Shuffling at sites

Hattifnatt · #1 10-01-2007, 07:39 AM

I always thought poker stars shuffled for every card but then I saw this today in the WCOOP main event chat:

snake8484: is the flop preset ? or does the deck continue to shuffle the remaining cards until the player presses call or fold etc
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HostMarkW [Support]: the deck is only shuffled once at the start of the hand

Maybe they had changed the method.

Do you know how it is?

And what networks have continuous shuffling (shuffling for every card) and what networks shuffles the deck before all the cards are dealt so the flop etc. would be the same regardless of action?

mustmuck · #2 10-01-2007, 08:13 AM

Prima apparently has continuous shuffling (link), to "ensure complete randomness". It's interesting how she tries to use this to show that the rabbit cam works though.

Obviously all that really matters is that it's random. Continuous shuffling discourages results oriented thinking ... shuffling at the start of the hand is obviously closer to how it would be in a casino. I don't really care myself.

Henry17 · #3 10-01-2007, 08:42 AM

Stars uses a TRNG to shuffle the entire deck.

I don't know of any site that uses continuous shuffle and if one did I'd avoid it since it is much less likely that the cards will actually be random with continuous shuffle.

ColdDecker333 · #4 10-01-2007, 09:02 AM

Party at least used to use continuous shuffle.

Rzitup · #5 10-01-2007, 01:31 PM

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Party at least used to use continuous shuffle.

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No they didn't.

Alex Scott · #6 10-01-2007, 04:27 PM

I'm pretty sure Full Tilt uses continuous shuffle, although in my opinion there is little practical difference between the two.

Daddy Warbucks · #7 10-01-2007, 09:10 AM

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Stars uses a TRNG to shuffle the entire deck.

I don't know of any site that uses continuous shuffle and if one did I'd avoid it since it is much less likely that the cards will actually be random with continuous shuffle.

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WTF? Explain how.

As far as i know UB does continuous shuffle.

Henry17 · #8 10-01-2007, 09:31 AM

If someone uses continuous shuffle then odds are they are using a PRNG to generate the random numbers.

Daddy Warbucks · #9 10-01-2007, 09:33 AM

Why?

jimbolina · #10 10-07-2007, 09:40 PM

I'm pretty sure Prima/microgaming uses something like this setup: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/

If you were interested enough. You could make this as a home project.