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Old 07-26-2007, 11:41 AM
WantToLearn WantToLearn is offline
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Default FR NL10: Set against flush board

Hi,

how is this hand to be played?

I have seen so many flushes completely slowplayed, I really think it is way more likely he had only the flush-ace/king, not a flush, before the river card fell. I also thought he wouldnīt give it up, so I thought my big bets had a potential reward even though I saw the risk. Wasnīt sure after he made that turn bet though, but didnīt really know how to react.

Any comments?

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $8.55
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.25
UTG+1: $11.70
MP1: $6.30
MP2: $4.60
MP3: $3.85
CO: $13.25
BTN: $1.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.30</font>, Hero calls $0.20, MP3 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.60</font>, MP3 folds, SB calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.60</font>, SB calls $1.30

River: ($7.30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $9.80 ($0.35 Rake)
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

I usually try to keep the pot smaller hoping to fill up cheap on the flop.

As played, raise more on the turn once the villain has made the 2nd small donk bet. River looks standard.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

Make it $3 on the turn.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

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I usually try to keep the pot smaller hoping to fill up cheap on the flop.

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You are assuming you are behind when he bets the flop?
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

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I usually try to keep the pot smaller hoping to fill up cheap on the flop.

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You are assuming you are behind when he bets the flop?

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Not always, but the 10NL donks are never laying down the nut flush draw in this spot and will stack off on the turn if you fill up.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

Anyone shove the turn? Or is this a case where too many hands we'll make money off of will fold, I'm thinking like AA,QQ,KJ,AK,AJ,KQ? The only reason I say this is that those weak bets look like villain is trying to set the price for his draw (block) and a good sized raise does nothing but commit us to call that river anyway since villains stack is not full and pot is getting big(or is that a good thing?).
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

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I usually try to keep the pot smaller hoping to fill up cheap on the flop.

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You are assuming you are behind when he bets the flop?

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Not always, but the 10NL donks are never laying down the nut flush draw in this spot and will stack off on the turn if you fill up.

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you have the best hand and a better draw than the NFD you want the money going in
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

Thanks to you all!
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

If you dont believe him, you have to raise the turn to at leat 4 or 5. You gave him AWESOME odds if he was still drawing.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: FR NL10: Set against flush board

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Anyone shove the turn? Or is this a case where too many hands we'll make money off of will fold, I'm thinking like AA,QQ,KJ,AK,AJ,KQ? The only reason I say this is that those weak bets look like villain is trying to set the price for his draw (block) and a good sized raise does nothing but commit us to call that river anyway since villains stack is not full and pot is getting big(or is that a good thing?).

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Shoving the turn makes him play correct. Make the raise one he shouldnt call, but you think he will. We want his flush draw to call but for the wrong price. Plus, shoving is terrible when you are way behind, and you will be here sometimes.
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