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Old 11-30-2007, 09:50 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - AK SB vs raise

Call/raise/fold?
If we're going to call and fold 70% of the flops, is it even profitable calling then? - Please explain
Raiser was unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1340)
MP1 (t1440)
MP2 (t1620)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1460)
Button (t1590)
Hero (t1540)
BB (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ??
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

call- dont want to flip that early, raise size is ok..
lets see a flop and re-evaluate
check/raise good flops
bet flops to protect etc.
lots of options
calling is the best play IMO
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

going to 350, him calling and you missing and cbetting is costly. But call pf forces you to hit but disguises our hand.

I think I don't do the same thing there 100% of the time.

When we do hit w/ AKs tho and it's raised pre it's easier to get AI obv. Also against an unknown I don't mind getting stacks in there.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

reraise pf


3 betting AK is fairly standard i thought?
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

i reraise pretty much 100% of the time.

its sooooooooooooooted.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SB vs raise

sometimes i call sometimes i repop
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

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i reraise pretty much 100% of the time.

its sooooooooooooooted.

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even from utg+1 raising 4x?

i would probably flatcall. check/fold flop if i miss
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

Depends on the raiser but generally I call if its just him in the pot and if there are a few other callers then I shove.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

I would Flat Call and CheckFold the Flop when i miss,because you are OOP and you miss 2/3 off the Time.
Its to early for a flip and the Blinds are to low and you are to deep.
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AK SV vs raise

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Its to early for a flip and the Blinds are to low and you are to deep.

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This is awful advice. "It's too early for a flip" is a platitude not backed up by any sort of logic. There is +EV and -EV, there is not "too early for a flip". It doesnt exist. You will never become a winning player using only thoughts like this.

I thinking reraising a random here is very +EV. I think we have solid equity vs. his range. I like a CRAI when he hit an A or K high flop, or when the board has two diamonds.
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