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Old 11-29-2007, 12:09 AM
gjim gjim is offline
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Default 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

First orbit at the table and villain is unknown. I've seen him limp a previous hand so I was assuming hes generally passive.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $218.65
BB: $234
UTG: $516.10
Hero (CO): $199
BTN: $346.15

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG calls $16

Turn: ($55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $76</font>

Snap fold or snap shove?

Min reraises from unknowns always confuse me. His flop play to this point seemed consistent w/ how a passive player would play a set, but I dont know if hes the type to limp JJ and there arent many other set combinations. I guess bigger flushes are out there, but it seems like an odd card to suddenly wake up and start betting on. All that said, its a minraise which could mean any number of things depending on the player and people just do weird [censored] sometimes.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:10 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

shove, I'm not crazy about it though
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

You shoved, he snap called with 22255, and you were sitting there scratching your head.

You then posted the hand, deciding to throw in your one-orbit read on Villain, I guess in case you got flamed?

Close?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

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You shoved, he snap called with 22255, and you were sitting there scratching your head.

You then posted the hand, deciding to throw in your one-orbit read on Villain, I guess in case you got flamed?

Close?

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this is not helpful to OP in any way.

fwiw, i think villain is much more likely to have a flush here than a boat.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:34 AM
hagbard celine hagbard celine is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

you're right.

There aren't too many flushes we beat here, and without any solid reads I don't assume that he's check-minraising the turn with just the As.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - flush facing weird action when board pairs

shpanko, what hand that check minraises the turn are you expecting to get value from? As5x, any random 5, maybe AsJx or 64ss although I'd think these would be less likely?

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No, I folded the hand and posted because I fight a constant battle against being weak tight. Thank you for your insight though.
EDIT: love your loc btw hagbard
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