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Old 11-27-2007, 07:12 PM
micpic micpic is offline
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Default Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

Hi guys,

What do you think about this hand? Was it the correct thing to do or what?

Had this guys running over 150 hands at 32/1/1,78



$0.12/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$27.46</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$28.30</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$20.55</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$21.66</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$41.55</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$25.15</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.37, 6 players) Hero is UTG T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.37, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises to $4.86</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $26.46</font>, <font color="#777777">CO folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN goes all-in $15.8</font>

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($52.49, 2 players)

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($52.49, 2 players)

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Surley there were a bunch of draws out there, but were it the right way to push the flop?
What hand do you put him on here? A flush draw? straight draw? complete straight? two pair?

Thought that if I were not ahead I had good chances to make the best hand by pairing the board on other streets.

Would you have played it different?

Had a hard time putting him on a hand, in my op he could have anything here.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:17 PM
bulldog999 bulldog999 is offline
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Default Re: Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

I would think you were ahead when the money went in but you were up against some combo draw with outs. I think betting to protect your hand looks fine.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:24 PM
gregorio gregorio is offline
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Default Re: Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

Well played. Nice thing with shoving the set is that if one of the draws comes in, you have a redraw to improve. So much better to shove flop than to have to make a decision on this turn.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:24 PM
NeverScurred NeverScurred is offline
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Default Re: Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

Because this is an incredibly wet flop, your initial c-bet should have been bigger, probably around full pot. Regardless of c-bet size, though, 3-betting all-in after his raise was definitely the right play. While QQ and KJ for the straight are in his range (possibly J8 as well; I'm not certain he calls with it preflop, though), he's also doing this with hands you beat such as AQ, QT, T9, QJ, and JT. He's fairly aggressive postflop given his VPIP, so he'll also be making this move with combo draws such as pair + flush draw and flush draw + jack for an OESD. You're ahead of his range here but there are a ton of turns you don't want to see, so getting it in on the flop seems best.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:28 PM
micpic micpic is offline
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Default Re: Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

Thank you guys,
Neverscurred you are right, but I had the feeling that they would call this one down on me, when I saw the raise I thought shoveing it was the right thing to do. If they had just called it would have been a c/f I think.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:56 PM
Parvex Parvex is offline
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Default Re: Flopping set with flush and straight draw out there...

I pot this flop every time. And I continue as you did. Get it in right here and there. Your ahead often.
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