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Old 06-23-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default The Parasite Dilemma

The Traveler's Dilemma has inspired me to create this Parasite Dilemma. I wonder if it's an innovation or if someone else has already invented it. If it's an innovation you saw it first here on SMP.

The Parasite Dilemma
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You are part of a group of 100 people. Each person in the group writes down on a piece of paper their decision whether to be a Contributor to the Group or a Parasite on the Group. The Operator of the experiment will add $100 to the Group's Treasury for every Group Contributor. For every Parasite on the Group, $200 will be subtracted from the Group Treasury, which may go into debt. Each Contibutor gets 1 Share and each Parasite gets 2 Shares in the Treasury. The Treasury is then divided amongst the Contributors and Parasites according to their Shares in the Treasury. If the Treasury is positive each Parasite will recieve twice as much of the proceeds as each Contributor. On the other hand, if the Treasury is in Debt each Parasite must pay out twice as much as each Contributor to pay off the Debt.

What is your decision? Do you decide to Contribute to the Group or be a Parasite?

There is also a NonDebt version of the Dilemma where the Treasury cannot fall below zero. What is you decision in the NonDebt Version?

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Old 06-23-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

The Contributors band together and eliminate the Parasites.
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

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The Contributors band together and eliminate the Parasites.

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Don't be a Parasite on the Thread.

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Old 06-23-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

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The Contributors band together and eliminate the Parasites.

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Don't be a Parasite on the Thread.

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Actually I was being a Contributor. For cooperation, altruism, etc. to work in social animals there needs to be a way to detect cheats and Parasites, and to ostracise or eliminate them.

But to clarify for posters in this thread, PTB is talking about a kind of multiplayer, but one-off, Prisoner's Dilemma, and I am talking about an iterated version of it.

But I won't iterate my comments in case you get iteration irritation.
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

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The Contributors band together and eliminate the Parasites.

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Don't be a Parasite on the Thread.

PairTheBoard

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Actually I was being a Contributor. For cooperation, altruism, etc. to work in social animals there needs to be a way to detect cheats and Parasites, and to ostracise or eliminate them.

But to clarify for posters in this thread, PTB is talking about a kind of multiplayer, but one-off, Prisoner's Dilemma, and I am talking about an iterated version of it.

But I won't iterate my comments in case you get iteration irritation.

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Exactly why I created and want to look at this Dilemma rather than the well known iterated prisoner's dilemma. By removing the easy answer I think the Parasite Dilemma isolates a concept that has been elluding us.

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Old 06-23-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

What do we know of the group of 100?
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

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What do we know of the group of 100?

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You are all motivated to make money.

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Old 06-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

Without having given it much thought, and reserving my right to change my answer later, you can take me down to the Parasite City
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: The Parasite Dilemma

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Without having given it much thought, and reserving my right to change my answer later, you can take me down to the Parasite City

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Remember the Debt factor. If more than 1/3 of the participants decide to be parasites you will end up doing worse than the contributors. You will owe more money than they will.

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Old 06-23-2007, 04:37 PM
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Without having given it much thought, and reserving my right to change my answer later, you can take me down to the Parasite City

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Remember the Debt factor. If more than 1/3 of the participants decide to be parasites you will end up doing worse than the contributors. You will owe more money than they will.

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Im well aware

I just dont think, out of 100 random people, enough of them not contribute for this to be relavent



Look at the percentage of the population that votes, to see evidence for the "what if everyone else did it?" syndrome
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