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Old 09-26-2007, 10:32 PM
RudeboyOi RudeboyOi is offline
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Default checked back turn. what to do on the river?

9-handed 6/12 kill game currently a kill hand
kill is right behind the hero and acts last

utg folds
utg + 1 calls
HERO raises (T Tc)
sb calls
bb folds
kill folds

flop Ac Qc 6c
checked to hero
HERO bets
sb raises
utg + 1 folds
HERO calls

turn Ac Qc 6c 4c
sb checks
HERO checks with the intention of...

...on the river.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

river play is really simple. call if bet into, bet if checked to.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

Why didn't you bet the turn?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:11 PM
RudeboyOi RudeboyOi is offline
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

if i get c/r on the turn im going to fold
if i bet and he doesnt have outs to improve hes just going to fold
if i check back the turn maybe he'll bet into me on the river and i can raise/fold
if he checks to me on the river i can bet and perhaps get a curiosity call
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

OK but you missed the other option; if he does have outs you miss a bet and you still may get a call on the river. It's also somewhat unlikely you get c/r, anyway the same bets are going in if you b/f the turn or call a river bet.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

Not betting the turn seems weak. The turn card looks like it scared the small blind, so make him call you down. Any reads on his play would be helpful.

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if i bet and he doesnt have outs to improve hes just going to fold

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Nah, he'll call you plenty.

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if i check back the turn maybe he'll bet into me on the river and i can raise/fold

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I wouldn't count on him betting the river with a worse hand with that board.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:44 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

NH. Turn check with this type of holding is straight out of HPFAP. Dont remember which page though. About river. Do what bakku says.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:48 AM
RudeboyOi RudeboyOi is offline
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

the villian in this hand a few hands earlier said "go ahead"
usually when i hear this it means im gonna c/c your ass
but with this guy it meant c/f just bet im done with it
he said it again in this hand the first hand wasnt against me
so i didnt want him to fold and i thought the only way i could get
any value out of him was by checkin back that turn
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

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river play is really simple. call if bet into, bet if checked to.

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I'd raise this river.

EDIT: How are people folding the third nuts here.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: checked back turn. what to do on the river?

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Why didn't you bet the turn?


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b/c if he's ahead, he's rarely getting called. I'd rather induce a bluff, or induce a call on the river.
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