4 bet semi bluff vs. Esfandiari - Page 5

cking · #41 10-05-2006, 10:56 PM

yeah i like the shove there. Also vs a player like esfandiari who prides himself on his ability to read other people, let him think he made the right read. Regardless of what he had, he should feel like he's a read on you when if he had JJ, he did not. Showing him the 10 or both your cards is just gonna give a player who is very good more info on you then you want him to have.

Exitonly · #42 10-06-2006, 02:43 AM

i dont like showing it to esfandiari, toss to muck in yoru best 'wish you called' face.

however, i obv like that you showed vs twincaracas, that could have significatnly increased the whole table(except twin)'s EV.

registrar · #43 10-06-2006, 05:46 AM

I don't know much about the guy apart from watching him on high stakes poker, getting sucked and putting Hellmuth on tilt. But it appears that he is incredibly good at poker so your play is sound and I really dount whether he is raise-folding JJ.

Personally, I would never show my cards to a great player to my left, and certainly not if he hadn't showed me the hooks.

Ansky · #44 10-06-2006, 04:10 PM

All,

You think that if I show, it will make Antonio more or less likely to repop me again? Do you think the fact that I pushed, will make Antonio lay off me for a while anyway?

FortunaMaximus · #45 10-06-2006, 04:13 PM

You're overthinking it here, IMHO.

Like you said, he was playing fairly tight this tournament.

Ansky · #46 10-06-2006, 04:18 PM

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You're overthinking it here, IMHO.

Like you said, he was playing fairly tight this tournament.

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He has been playing fairly tight overall, but against me has been pretty loose and aggro.

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FortunaMaximus · #47 10-06-2006, 04:24 PM

On-the-spot perception.

You're likely, now, to force him to sit back and tighten up against you. Showing him JTs is only gonna reinforce that.

NYWalker · #48 10-06-2006, 04:38 PM

IMO, you should show him. He will be less likely to repop you.

NYWalker · #49 10-06-2006, 04:41 PM

but he would call your PF raise more often. he always have position on you (except 2-3 hands per orbit).

Spee · #50 10-06-2006, 04:48 PM

Haven't read the other replies yet, but it looks like he is trying to put you to a decision for all of your chips. This tells me that he probably has big Ace or a pair minimum and I wouldn't expect him to fold either or those.