How is this deal for me?

markbris · #1 09-23-2006, 01:24 AM

$3 tourney on stars tonight. Down to 6 with chipstacks:

Table '31934573 131' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mscfox (94616 in chips)
Seat 2: Pekash (632650 in chips)
Seat 4: madmac64 (263590 in chips)
Seat 5: Laudor (185745 in chips)
Seat 7: Skott (407743 in chips)
Seat 8: markbris (388156 in chips)

Blinds are 8000/16000 800 ante

We chopped based on chip count:

Markbris: $364.92
Skott: $376.37
madmac64: $292.12
Pekash: $507.80
Laudo: $246.63
mscfox: $193.37

I was probably better than the other players but I felt like this was a good enough amount to take when considering i could go out farther back. My amount was more than 3rd but less than 2nd place. thanks

Sherman · #2 09-23-2006, 02:33 AM

Read the anthology and about a million 2+2 books on chopping it up.

If you weren't the chipleader and it wasn't heads-up, and you did a chip-chop, you got screwed (by a little bit at least). Some say it's worth fighting for, some say it isn't.

I never ever ever deal unless I am the CL or it is heads-up.

For guidance, watch "Deal or No Deal" on NBC. Practice saying "No Deal!"

bucktotal · #3 09-23-2006, 02:41 AM

what were the payouts supposed to be?

X-Man · #4 09-23-2006, 09:30 AM

Personally I don't do deals until it's down to at most 3,more often HU, (where the big payouts are),but I have seen alot worse.Just out of interest,did you work it out between yourselves or did poker site do numbers.

Spee · #5 09-23-2006, 09:49 AM

Forget about the money. You lost because you need practice and experience going down to the end, playing 4-way, playing 3-way, playing head-up. If you're playing $3-entries, then you're still mainly concerned about improving your play. That ain't gonna happen with a chop. If +/-$150 is going to make you or break you, then you shouldn't be gambling for money at cards in the first place. In other words, the money is meaningless. It is the experience that counts.

FortunaMaximus · #6 09-23-2006, 09:58 AM

These huge fields build stamina though, Spee. That's also an added benefit. The micros are just boot camp. Any up and coming player with pro aspirations learns that eventually.

Spee · #7 09-23-2006, 10:10 AM

It has nothing to do with stamina. It has to do with getting into situations to play in 2-3-4 handed games. The only way to get this experience is to get to the end. The average player is so weak in short-handed or head-up situations because they have little experience in them and rarely see them except on TV. One doesn't get this experience by dividing a bag of peanuts in lieu of playing to the end.

AceLuby · #8 09-23-2006, 10:19 AM

I agree w/ Spee on this one, chopping w/ 3 players w/ almost equal chipstacks is one thing, this chop is ridiculous and unless I was a SEVERE chipleader that was guaranteed 1st place $ I wouldn't take it. Be confident in your short handed play.

Personally I only do deals when it's HU, 1st and 2nd have a big difference in pay, we're similar in chips, and then I say split it up something like 2/5 for each of us, 1/5 we play for. I like poker and love playing when it gets down to the FT, why deprive yourself of something you spent so much time working to get to?

PantsOnFire · #9 09-23-2006, 12:55 PM

I don't agree with the "experience" opinions here. You can get plenty of final table experience by playing SnGs.

I personally don't chop unless:

(a) the money is exceptionally big, or

(b) the blinds are low relative to the stacks and the players are equally skilled and thus it will take a while to settle it (i.e. it is likely the guy with the best cards will win).

AceLuby · #10 09-23-2006, 01:38 PM

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I don't agree with the "experience" opinions here. You can get plenty of final table experience by playing SnGs.

I personally don't chop unless:

(a) the money is exceptionally big, or

(b) the blinds are low relative to the stacks and the players are equally skilled and thus it will take a while to settle it (i.e. it is likely the guy with the best cards will win).

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[censored] experience, what I was saying is that the FT is the best part of the tournament and what you have worked so hard to get to, so why deal it out?

As for b), if that were the case it would be the luckiest guy would win, but it wouldn't. They guy w/ the most skill would win because you could be patient pick your spots and not feel the need to go crazy because the blinds are so small. However, this rarely happens online so it shouldn't even be discussed.