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Old 03-06-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

There are only 4 cases I can think of when you can fold AA:

1) Multiway pot with lots of action and several people going all in;
2) Someone pushing on a scary monotone coordinated flop, ie Jh9h8h;
3) A 7/5/0.1 type of guy raising;
4) Not liking money.
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

I folded this hand but later thought that I should have called.

So the difference between my hand and this one?

linky

50NL?

Board wetter?

AA vs QQ?

greater number saw flop?
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

The difference is there is no flush draw in the other hand.. you have a smaller overpair and don't have a backdoor flush draw. The guy could easily have TJ here with or without diamonds. Most of the time when I see people take this line it's a draw and when they check raise, it's a set.
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

Got ya . Thanks!
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

Actually, I don't think this is a bad fold. Villain has more than 100bbs, making it less likely that he is a total fish. You raised from UTG representing strength and yet he leads and then shoves not fearing your hand. You also have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] making it less likely he has a flush draw.

Generally, most players at this level play their draws passively. I'd say this is a set or two pair more often than not. I personally just don't like going broke here, without a read, when villain is representing such huge strength.
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

What hands u are ahead that villains dont 3Bet PF ?!

I think villain 3Bets JJ+,AK here... maybe TT.

99- he just calls.

I think he got the set.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?


I consider two things when making this call. First, how coordinated is the board? On the above board, you see several different OESDs and flushdraws. Not bad. On the linked example, there is only one OESD hand (45) and nothing else.

Second, how does this opponet play his draws? Some people call down, some people like to check the nuts, some people play their draws more aggressively than a made hand, etc. If this guy is aggressive in general, I call all day long. If he is passive, I fold.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA vs Set?

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What hands u are ahead that villains dont 3Bet PF ?!

I think villain 3Bets JJ+,AK here... maybe TT.

99- he just calls.

I think he got the set.

[/ QUOTE ]

you can't know this without reads
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