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Old 01-28-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

Villian was 47/17/1.5 over 100 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $10.35</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $10.35 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $10.35
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

I fold this. You're not ahead of much. You wanna spend money on #2 pair against a guy who could have ATC? You have a bluff catcher.... a PSB river bet bluffer can usually have their way with me.

Some will say you induced the bluff with your turn check, so you must call the river. Frankly, I don't really agree with that alot. If villain ½ pots it,,, I might think about calling because of the inducement. But a PSB...... I'll pass.
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Old 01-28-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

Yeah I really don't think he has a jack, he might have played a set really weird, but I highly doubt that. I guess the only explanation was just a bad call on the flop with something like AK or AQ spades and got lucky. I would fold also, especially to that bet on the river even though it does seem a little bit fishy, Im not sure about it either.
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

Why don't you just second barrel the turn? He could easily have been calling with an over or 2 overs. Meaby he's good enough to toss JT away (which I doubt) but giving up the hand on the turn looks a bit weak to me.

I like 2/3-3/4 potbet on the turn to likely get a free showdown (you have showdown value!) and folding to resistence.
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

By not betting on the turn you let him think that you were weak and maybe let him hit his flush if he was on a draw. Would of bet the turn and folded to a c/r because you can only beat a few hands he could have but by betting atleast you know more about were you stand.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

I don't mind the turn check. The board is dry except the runner runner spade draw. So there is a very good point in pot control. Villain is loose but not too aggressive. He likes betting better than calling though. But it's close. I think this is the damn bet pot-button again. I really hate this thing. Villains like this would normally stab at the pot with something like $2. If villain has a unpaired hand, he's got only a 1/3 chance to hit on the flop. So he isn't too likely to have that J. And he won't have a straight. Even a 2pair would require some VERY loose raising from UTG. A set is always possible, of course. Because I don't think that he thought a lot about the bet size, I call here. If he wanted a call with a set or something, he would bet differently. I expect to catch a bluff here more often than 1/3 of the time.
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - TT MP Good Fold?

Bet 3/4 potsize on turn and watch him check the river.
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