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Old 10-24-2006, 09:53 PM
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Doug meant people like to be lied to not all the time but some of the time

Doug did not mean people do not like to be not lied to some of the time
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:56 PM
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Doug did not mean people do not like to be not lied to some of the time

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But if he meant that people like to be told the truth some of the time, that must have implied this, no?
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:15 PM
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Doug did not mean people do not like to be not lied to some of the time

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But if he meant that people like to be told the truth some of the time, that must have implied this, no?

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Did he know at the time he made the statement that said statement would be interpreted as suggesting he implied that some people like to not be told the truth some of the time?
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:19 PM
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I assume that he assumed his statement would be interpreted as he intended it, so I assume that he knew that his statement would be interepreted as suggesting he implied that some people like to not be told the truth some of the time.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:20 PM
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I assume that he assumed his statement would be interpreted as he intended it, so I assume that he knew that his statement would be interepreted as suggesting he implied that some people like to not be told the truth some of the time.

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lol you win!
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:14 AM
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People like to be told the truth.
People like to be lied to.

Is it as simple as discerning when people like to be told the turth and when people like to be lied to. Or are people generally illogical with likes?

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If A = People like to be told the truth
Then not A = It's not the case that people like to be told the truth
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Old 10-26-2006, 04:35 PM
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It would have to be "all people like to be lied to all the time." I don't think that's what Doug meant.

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I don't think it's what he meant either, but what he actually wrote is parsed that way. (I once had a student who asked me if I could grade him on what he meant to write rather than what he actually wrote!)
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Old 10-26-2006, 06:20 PM
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I have a teacher who'd call my writing on this forum terrible due to the frequent disregard for the mechanics of the English language.

I'd just say it's an informal environment, so I don't care what kind of grade I'd get.
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