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Old 05-09-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Questions from an improving player

After reading a lot of poker literature and frequent these forums, my game is definately improving. However I have two questions. Can someone please elaborate on what exactly Reverse Implied Odds are and what kind of hands have reverse implied odds? Is there a certain book that outlines this idea? Also, upon going through NLHTAP Sklansky and Miller make a point in saying that Big Bets and Big Pots are for Big Hands. Do they mean that certain hands are geared towards winning larger pots preflop? Or are the authors trying to articulate that you should not being going broke with top pair? This whole concept is something I'm having trouble with. Is calling a raise and a cold call with something like 87s or 98s in position a negative EV play? In limit that may be the case, but in no limit your oppponents's stacks are in constant jeopardy so your implied odds are considerably higher. Any help on clearing these two points up would be a great help.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Questions from an improving player

Theory of Poker, Chapter 7, pg 60

Summary: Reverse Implied Odds

1) You're not sure where you're at.
2) You have little chance of improving to beat a hand your opponent may already have
3) A call commits you to calling future bets all the way to the end.
4) Your opponent can back off at any time.

Say you have two black aces and the board is all hearts and straight coordinated. Someone may have already flopped a flush or straight or on a draw to one. You stand to win a little or lose a lot.
Implied odds you stand to win a lot and lose little. Hopefully.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Questions from an improving player

[ QUOTE ]
Theory of Poker, Chapter 7, pg 60

Summary: Reverse Implied Odds

1) You're not sure where you're at.
2) You have little chance of improving to beat a hand your opponent may already have
3) A call commits you to calling future bets all the way to the end.
4) Your opponent can back off at any time.

Say you have two black aces and the board is all hearts and straight coordinated. Someone may have already flopped a flush or straight or on a draw to one. You stand to win a little or lose a lot.
Implied odds you stand to win a lot and lose little. Hopefully.

[/ QUOTE ]Is this the same as +EV -EV
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Questions from an improving player

It is hard to know whether a bet or raise when facing reverse implied odds is EV+ or EV-. Obviously, I'd like to see a brick on the turn and then betting may be EV+..but nevertheless it's hard to tell.
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