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Old 11-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Trikkur Trikkur is offline
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Default One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

Villain is solid probably a 2+2er, I feel like I can fold the flop to make my life easier, but I felt like calling was correct. The ace is a good and bad card. It hits my likely range of 2 pair, but I feel like if I bet he's still calling with 100% of his range that he raised the flop with and I'm going to be lost on the river. Should I of folded flop? If I don't want to fold to the raise give me a generic line for the rest of the hand and also the specific line for the A that turned. Thanks

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BB: $365.05
UTG: $200
Hero (CO): $319.90
BTN: $334.50
SB: $214.90

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $74</font>, Hero calls $60

Turn: ($165) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($165) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:10 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

wow thats a big raise on the flop. I'd just fold and save urself a lot of stress/bad situations
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

Check and call the river.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:12 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

plays easier of you fold the flop

and i think it's the right play too, esp since you have the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] so villain can't have TP+FD
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

I probably just fold the flop. You're not really going to like any turn other than a ten and his raise size is really weird. I doubt a huge overbet like that is ever a bluff and even if it is a semibluff you'll never really know what turn cards are safe. As played I'm check folding that turn and check folding that river.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

man that flop raise is big, I normally fold this flop.
I don't see a villian bluf on a wet board like this because he will be looked up pretty light. And than I'm not talking about semibluffs against wich we are a flip. So yeah I would have folded the flop

I feel like you have to c/c the river as played because no draw hit I feel like he was one one because he checked behind the turn for a free card. So yeah c/c the river to induce bluffs and avoid getting raised.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

if he's solid like u say, i just fold the flop and stay away from the tough decisions...not so sure if it's the right play though
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

I fold the flop to the enormous raise every time without major history - he has two-pair or a set and doesn't want you to draw - either that or he has a huge draw himself with which you're flipping and have reverse implied odds.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

Such an easy flop fold.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

Yeah it's a pretty easy flop fold. You have terrible reverse implied odds, the pot size is spiraling out of control, you have no idea how to react to a turn bet (which he'll do with all his made hands and with draws sometimes) and you'll never get value out of a worse hand. Fold the flop.
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