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Old 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
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Everything I've heard is that the Twins don't want Wang or Cano because they don't want to have to pay either of them.

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Also, Wang on turf will have a negative impact on his effectiveness.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:56 PM
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Everything I've heard is that the Twins don't want Wang or Cano because they don't want to have to pay either of them.

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Also, Wang on turf will have a negative impact on his effectiveness.

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True on both accounts, and if I'm the Yankees, I'd rather unload Kennedy than Wang.

If I'm the Twins, I'd still probably have Wang over Kennedy. If they don't want to pay him, they could trade him for more than they can get for Kennedy. Even with the turf affect, Wang carries far less risk than Kennedy and I don't know that Kennedy makes up for it with upside. In fact, Kennedy's ceiling is pretty much Wang.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: ***yankees official offseason thread*****

Here is how all 3 compare to the other starters in the Twins system right now:

Zips projections for next year:

Name/age/era:
Santana/29/3.21
Liriano/24/3.42 (obv. very risky)
Hughes/23/3.70
Wang/27/3.91
Slowey/24/3.93
Garza/24/4.21 (just traded away)
Kennedy/23/4.38
League average - 4.57
Pino/24/4.46
Baker/26/4.50
Manship/23/4.64
Blackburn/26/4.86
Swarzak/22/4.90
Bonser/26/4.98
Sosa/22/5.01

/edited to include all relevant players
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:10 PM
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In fact, Kennedy's ceiling is pretty much Wang.

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according to Kevin Goldstein, Kennedy's ceiling is a #3 (and he is basically already there)
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:15 PM
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Funny, looking at those projections, the Yankees have 6 players who project to hit better then the avg. 1b/dh. The Twins have 2. The Yankees have 11 better then the avg. CF. The Twins have 4.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:50 PM
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In fact, Kennedy's ceiling is pretty much Wang.

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according to Kevin Goldstein, Kennedy's ceiling is a #3 (and he is basically already there)

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FWIW, Carlos Gomez (of BBTF/HBT) likes Kennedy's mechanics to hold up better than Hughes over the long run.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:55 PM
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NY Daily News says Hughes is in the deal now

Hughes
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:34 PM
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The red sox getting him for their named package horrifies me, but giving up hughes really scares me.... I don't know what to think
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:19 AM
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god dammit
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:22 AM
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The red sox getting him for their named package horrifies me, but giving up hughes really scares me.... I don't know what to think

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what i think is that the red sox have no intention of legitimately trading for santana
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