One of the toughest hands I've played - 200NL

[ShowUthExit]

I dont think youre ahead of much, if anything, on the flop. I'd fold to flop raise. Only thing you're beating is like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and yeah.... you're not really beating that either. Let it go on flop

[lowpockets]

You are out of position with a weak hand... Not sure how this could ever be a good flop call with the limited history you have on this dude.

[Unknown Soldier]

this seems like a really std hand tbh.

prob c/f river, and yeah fold flop your equity is pretty terrible

[bilbo-san]

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plays easier of you fold the flop

and i think it's the right play too, esp since you have the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] so villain can't have TP+FD

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Erm...if villain had TP+FD he'd have you smoked or be freerollin' and you'd fold even faster.

[Noam Chomsky]

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this seems like a really std hand tbh.

prob c/f river, and yeah fold flop your equity is pretty terrible

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so my range is to wide. which of these are not part of a good tags range here:
Board: 9s Js Qd

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 51.323% 44.72% 06.60% 20808 3072.50 { KcQs }

Hand 1: 48.677% 42.07% 06.60% 19577 3072.50 { TT-99, AQs, AsTs, KQs, QTs, J9s, T9s, 8s7s, 7s6s, AQo, KQo, QJo, JTo }

[TJ Eckleburg12]

I know it's probably a leak to have an absolute rule about a certain situation...

But I cannot stand playing KQo out of position. Nothing good ever comes from it.

I'd fold the flop.

[Vovochka84]

easy fold on flop. What card except ten(not a spade) csn help you? And you are oop against solid opponent. Just fold and seek for more profitable situations

[Ranma4703]

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this seems like a really std hand tbh.

prob c/f river, and yeah fold flop your equity is pretty terrible

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so my range is to wide. which of these are not part of a good tags range here:
Board: 9s Js Qd

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 51.323% 44.72% 06.60% 20808 3072.50 { KcQs }

Hand 1: 48.677% 42.07% 06.60% 19577 3072.50 { TT-99, AQs, AsTs, KQs, QTs, J9s, T9s, 8s7s, 7s6s, AQo, KQo, QJo, JTo }

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You don't know which one of those hands he has, and you are out of position. 50% is not good enough to continue in a huge pot.

[Noam Chomsky]

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this seems like a really std hand tbh.

prob c/f river, and yeah fold flop your equity is pretty terrible

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so my range is to wide. which of these are not part of a good tags range here:
Board: 9s Js Qd

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 51.323% 44.72% 06.60% 20808 3072.50 { KcQs }

Hand 1: 48.677% 42.07% 06.60% 19577 3072.50 { TT-99, AQs, AsTs, KQs, QTs, J9s, T9s, 8s7s, 7s6s, AQo, KQo, QJo, JTo }

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bah, for some reason some of the obvious hands didn't pull in. I'd still hardly say our equity 'sucks':
Board: 9s Js Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.516% 42.19% 05.33% 26313 3322.50 { KdQs }
Hand 1: 52.484% 47.16% 05.33% 29412 3322.50 { TT-99, AQs, AcTc, AsTs, KQs, KTs, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 8s7s, 7s6s, 6s5s, AQo, KQo, QJo, JTo }

[Fonkey123]

He has A/x and isn't folding if you bet?

At least that's what the turn check behind usually means here. Either AT or A/xss. C/f ftw.