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Old 11-28-2007, 03:27 PM
Ganon Ganon is offline
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Default 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Villain is 50/4/0.7 with a 20% WTSD over 80 hands, no other history. I might be percieved as tilted becuase I've been coolered twice already but I'm not sure if villain is paying attention to this. FWIW I'm playing about 25/20 but I haven't shown down any weak hands.

Don't really like any of my options here all that much but what's standard and whats optimal and how big difference does 145bb deep make?


Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $100.88
CO: $92.06
BTN: $176.87
SB: $150.71
Hero (BB): $145.57
UTG: $94.40

Pre-Flop: 8 9 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.50) 5 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:29 PM
Kinbor Kinbor is offline
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Default Re: 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

reraise, call push and if the bottom card pairs, you've lost.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

There are too many draws he could have here. The only hands that have you smoked are 88 and 99, which I think we can rule out pretty easily. If he limped 6-7 on the button, then its just a [censored] set-up but you still have a few outs. I make this $42ish.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

Not the most fun spot, but you really can't discount QQ/KK/AA here against this type of player. He shows up with them too often for you to ever get away from your hand. I make it $40 and get all the money in asap.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for the responses and so far everyone seems to agree that 3bet is the best move. I felt so too but I wasn't sure.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $100.88
CO: $92.06
BTN: $176.87
SB: $150.71
Hero (BB): $145.57
UTG: $94.40

Pre-Flop: 8 9 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.50) 5 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $175.87 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $98.57 and is All-In

Turn: ($292.64) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($292.64) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $292.64 Pot ($34.30 Rake)
BTN showed 6 7 (a straight Five to Nine) and WON $258.34 (+$112.77 NET)
Hero showed 8 9 (two pairs, Nines and Eights) and LOST (-$145.57 NET)
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - Top Two vs 50vpip fish 145 deep

i dont really like getting it in vs. this guy on the flop. i doubt he's getting it in with like...A9 given his passivity. i would call the flop and see what the turn brings, probably checking sometimes donking.
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