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#31
08-01-2007, 01:17 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
felix,
I was trying something new here. Sometimes the most optimal play is one you havent thought of yet. I didnt like the flop line, and given it i thought it made the turn an interesting decision. Do we take hte free card with the NFD, or bet here? Sometimes we post hands not just so I can learn, but others. 
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#32
08-01-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
Fair enough, but I also am trying to teach here as well and your line gives a lesson on how to put yourself into a tough spot.
As for whether to bet or not I really am indifferent here. And for which line to take, read my last post. I wonder how many people play it this way. I'm open to hearing different reasonings....
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#33
08-01-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
Villans PSB on the flop seems like a med strength, TP-type hand, trying to price out draws.
With no real read or history, I have a very hard time getting away from your hand here for 100bb's. Don't know about the min raise honestly, would make a 3x reraise here and plan to call a shove.
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#34
08-01-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
I ain't folding no matter what happens in this hand that's for sure. You could raise right away or call and get it in on the turn. Super drawy flop + sets unlikely + only 1 2 pair hand feasible and we have solid 30% equity against it = felt
Basically I think your hand is monster in this spot and you should just be thinking about how you can best create a big pot
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#36
08-01-2007, 02:29 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
[ QUOTE ]
felix, I was trying something new here. Sometimes the most optimal play is one you havent thought of yet. I didnt like the flop line, and given it i thought it made the turn an interesting decision. Do we take hte free card with the NFD, or bet here? Sometimes we post hands not just so I can learn, but others. [/ QUOTE ] I check just because it's so much easier to induce a river bluff from AJ/KJ or even a missed KQ/89 or something. Shoving turn blows these hands out of the pot.
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#37
08-01-2007, 05:05 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
The way I see it BB only has 60BB so is likely a fish. Villain bets full pot vs a jack high flop, a full pot bet to me looks like he may well have a marginal hand and doesn't want any action, and doesn't want the fishy BB to call with a draw, so I think he may well do this with something like 33-99 or a draw. I actually think it's quite possible that he bets less than full pot with a set here. It's a classic tell, people act strong when they are weak and act weak when they are strong.
If you raise flop make it 18-22 to price out draws.
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#39
08-01-2007, 07:18 AM
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Re: 50NL FTP....its been a while
Ok,
consensus appears to be we like checking behind. River is a total blank, I believe it was the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] CO leads for 16ish, EMc value shove or just call?
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