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Old 04-05-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

Villian is 38/3.6/2 over like 80 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $214.75
CO: $398.20
Button: $201
SB: $580.40
BB: $140.30

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ...
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

not sure. He is soooo passive, he'll probably only raise your river with the NF. But at the same time he could easily have a Q or flush. And what hands would he have that you beat to make it worth it? TT, 88, 77, A6? i lean toward check river.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

I definately bet/fold here, $15-$20ish. He calls your turn bet with a massive range, the flush isn't a big part of it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

Well, you missed a few bb's of value on the turn with your bet size...that'd be a start. If he's calling $7, he's calling $11. Diamond's a bad card because it's harder for him to call you now with 77. You can bet/fold $16 or so I suppose.

Also, explain your flop play.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

I think i just check behind. What would he call a river bet with? I doubt he calls with 77, 88, or TT. But if he is capable of raising with these pairs, then it's an even easier check.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

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I had been cbetting a ton and figured this was a pretty safe flop for me to change it up a little bit, and perhaps get called down lighter on a later street.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:41 PM
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Also, explain your flop play.

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I had been cbetting a ton and figured this was a pretty safe flop for me to change it up a little bit, and perhaps get called down lighter on a later street.

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Well, if that was your reasoning, I don't agree with your flop play. Better would be a flop bet, turn check behind, river call or bet if checked too. You need to give him a chance to call you light (with say 55), so do it on the flop where chance are greatest that he will do so.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

AJ. if u bet the flop and wanna call a river bet, consider betting the turn instead and checking the river as a better line, by quite a reasonable amount
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ wants a little more value

I don't think its bad to check the flop once in awhile to mix it up.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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AJ. if u bet the flop and wanna call a river bet, consider betting the turn instead and checking the river as a better line, by quite a reasonable amount

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AJ's line is the "standard" line, and I think it's better against players known to be capable of bluffing. I'm curious why you would choose to try to get only one street of value though?
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