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Old 02-11-2006, 02:59 AM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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I think if you want to win small and just build a roll, PLO8 is fine,

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12+ tabling sngs or LHE is the way to go if you want a solid hourly rate without playing high stakes. LO8 isn't quite as good simply because you can't multitable as heavily, but can do so more than PLO8.

Puts me in a tough spot. I'm in this purely to make money. I don't like playing sngs and won't play more than 2-3 hours a day. PLO8 just doesn't have enough tables running for me to take advantage of my multitabling skills. LHE has way too much variance. I suck at LO8. I guess that leaves getting better at LO8 or 10 tabling 100NLHE.
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Old 02-11-2006, 04:10 AM
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I guess that leaves getting better at LO8 or 10 tabling 100NLHE.

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Do both. I play limit holdem to make my money. I play 5/10 6-max LO8 to learn the game / have fun. I don't play LO8 often, but enough to have some fun and hopefully I don't suck as bad as my initial results say that I do.

There is definitely room to do both. If you want to play 6 hours a day then play 5 hours of HE and 1 of LO8. You will get better at LO8 and will still make money. Eventually you should get good enough at LO8 to make that your primary game.
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Old 02-11-2006, 04:33 AM
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Average $10/hour 4 tabling $3 turbo SnGs along
with the occasional $5/$6 game. Ive also been
running well in the 1/2 limit, but that isn't
a very large sample size.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:41 PM
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I dont do any table selection at all.

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My winrate skyrocketed when i stopped doing that. That just baffles me that people would not pay attention to this.

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Old 02-13-2006, 08:53 PM
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8-10BB/100 on $200-600 PLO8. The hourly rate depends a lot on what level and how SH I'm playing.

btw, I pwn Mute HU.
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Old 02-13-2006, 08:57 PM
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I PLAY YOU HEAD UP, ANYTIME!

(2k stakes)
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:05 AM
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I stopped playing PLO8 (200 and 500) and switched to limit 5/10 and 10/20 recently (switched sites too).

When I played 200 and 500 PLO8, I made 14.51 BB/100 over a 4795 hand sample (part time over about 5 months). 500 was only 1013 hands at 8.54 BB/100, 200 was 3782 hands at 16.11 BB/100.

Not sure if either was sustainable long-term . . . actually was curious about it if anyone has insights. I didn't feel like I played particularly well or anything, I still felt like there were plenty of holes in my game.

I felt like I was too prone to the 'one big mistake' that would kill a session of gains, so I decided to switch to fixed-limit to limit the loss on my blow-ups.

So far at 5/10 and 10/20, I'm at 2016 hands (split about 60/40 between 5/10 and 10/20) and 6.44 BB/100 (7.91 BB/100 at 5/10, and 3.97 at 10/20).

I've gone from $31/hr to $42/hr since switching. Like I said, still curious if this is sustainable, I'm about 24%/5% (VP$IP/PFR) with 67% W/SD at both 5/10 and 10/20 so far. Are those rates sustainable with those % stats?

I also feel like the variance at 5/10 is lower than 200 and 10/20 is lower than 500.

Game______SD/100__WR/100__Hands
200 PLO8 - $245.03 - $64.44 (3782)
500 PLO8 - $818.84 - $85.35 (1013)
5/10 LO8 - $128.07 - $79.12 (1262)
10/20 LO8 - $245.04 - $79.44 (754)

Slightly higher overall hourly rate, incredibly lower varience equals lower heart attack risk and saner poker player from my perspective.

Hope that helps OP (I realize the sample is small) and if anyone is able to answer my questions as to sustainability, I'd greatly appreciate it. I have stuck exclusively to full (7-10) tables a LO8 (avg. 8.7 players), played some SH PLO8 (avg. 7.7 players), but mostly full there too, in case that matters.
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:13 AM
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I would say looking at those numbers assuming they are somewhat typical of larger samples, that if you can handle the varience at 200 PLO8, you could switch to 10/20 LO8 without seeing much difference in terms of varience, assuming your game adapts to limit vs. pot limit.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:00 AM
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I can't comment on the win rates, but I will say that those samples are quite small [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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