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10-11-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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TT, what is your personal opinion of the scenario? Are you saying your call would be that which apparently is the std ruling (at this point)? After everyone at the tbl hearing the villain say "I had you til the [censored] river" and flipping his cards up over the line (which he obv assumed was muck, nobody just throws cards randomly away from them when they're calling) can you honestly ship Villain the $? [/ QUOTE ] 0524432, what would your opinion be if the loudmouth hadn't said anything, but the villain had said "I had you til the [censored] river....Wait!! Holy [censored]! I have a straight flush, I call!" after flipping his cards? What if he didn't say anything, flipped his cards, and then calmly said 'I call'? |
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#53
10-11-2007, 02:34 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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0524432, what would your opinion be if the loudmouth hadn't said anything, but the villain had said "I had you til the [censored] river....Wait!! Holy [censored]! I have a straight flush, I call!" after flipping his cards? [/ QUOTE ] In this case, because anyone in their right mind realizes, NO BO DY that is going to make a call, says what he said, and flips their hands toward the muck, period. |
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#55
10-11-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
Friend of mine played a hand recently....
Friend has AJ....he bets a Jxx flop He check calls the K turn. He check / calls the river. Villain says "I have KJ" Friend says "Oh crap", turns his cards face up and pushes them about 3 inches towards the dealer. Villian then shows 95, not KJ. He has nine high. Dealer says hero folded and awards pot to villain. Hero calls for floor who confirms ruling. All other players complain but floor stands by his decision. This is at Paris in Vegas (which I know is a stupid place to play poker but still....) What a joke. |
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#56
10-11-2007, 02:46 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] *If Foxwoods has a rule about not exposing a hand in play, the hand should be killed for violation of this rule. I do not know if such a rule exists. [/ QUOTE ] Good question, does anyone know for 100% sure? [/ QUOTE ] only a few casinos have this rule, generally its allowed in heads up play. considering the ruling its safe to assume at Foxwoods your allowed to turn your hand heads up at the river before making an action. [/ QUOTE ] this is correct, its allowed at foxwoods when hu |
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#57
10-11-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
RESULTS of OP......
2 floor mangers decide that because the 35h which Villain held did not TOUCH the pile of mucked cards, the hand was live. Mouth muppet was reminded of the 1 player per hand rule and allowed to continue playing, Villain never said another word until Hero (myself) left the table after verbally tearing the muppet and the floor, a new [censored]. This was about a year ago, and I still fume when thinking about it. IMO....nobody who is making a call makes the comment, and takes the action (flipping cards up over the line he considered mucking obv) that Villain did. If it were not for a comment made by another player, I would have been shipped the pot, period. Giving the Mouth Muppet some sort of ridiculous [censored] timeout, doesn't get me my $ back, wtf good does it do me for him to stand in a [censored] corner for 10 minutes, I want my [censored] money. |
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#58
10-11-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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Friend of mine played a hand recently.... Friend has AJ....he bets a Jxx flop He check calls the K turn. He check / calls the river. Villain says "I have KJ" Friend says "Oh crap", turns his cards face up and pushes them about 3 inches towards the dealer. Villian then shows 95, not KJ. He has nine high. Dealer says hero folded and awards pot to villain. Hero calls for floor who confirms ruling. All other players complain but floor stands by his decision. This is at Paris in Vegas (which I know is a stupid place to play poker but still....) What a joke. [/ QUOTE ] This ruling is clearly wrong, and not applicable to the situation in this thread. This is a basic cards speak situation. Also, villian gets KITN for mis-calling his hand and his hand should be dead anyway because he did. |
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#59
10-11-2007, 02:52 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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Giving the Mouth Muppet some sort of ridiculous [censored] timeout, doesn't get me my $ back, I could care if he is standing in the corner, I want my [censored] money. [/ QUOTE ] In other words: "Kill the best hand, so I can have some money." You are not the first person to ask the floor to kill the best hand and unfortunately you won't be the last. In the future you should refrain from starting posts in B&M if you only want to vent about a perceived injustice. |
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#60
10-11-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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I wish dealers at FW would all grab mucked river cards and bury them quickly. Some do. Most don't. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. This would of avoided this whole mess. A couple of weeks ago, with broadway on the board (no flush possible). It goes check, check on the river. The first guy flips his cards face up -- other guy shakes his head and push his cards forward (over the line). The dealer just sits there and does nothing. |
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