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Old 11-08-2007, 05:40 AM
cs3 cs3 is offline
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Default QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

<font color="blue"> villain is the same villain as in my previous post (click me, lots of relevant info) and this QQ hand took place after that hand did.

villain is a pretty crazy LAG. hes running super donkishly hot and has several stacks of 300+BB's. somewhat postionally aware, and can sorta read hands but also fearless. hes called down extremly light a couple of times, and has shown a propensity to bluff but mostly when he has pos.
hes at 3 of my tables and running ~40/25 with a postflop AF of 2.5 (which is pretty high considering his huge VPIP) over 600+ hands

by this point we pretty much hate each other and have been shipping lots of pots back and forth, playing back at eash really light, and trying to win every single hand vs each other that we play. villain does lim/call often but this is the first time he has ever limp RR'd in all those hands...

there are sooo many diffrent ways i couldve played this hand and i felt totally lost the whole way</font>


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $214.45
UTG: $186.95
CO: $168.95
BTN: $54
SB: $104.20

Pre-Flop: Q Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $9
<font color="blue"> ok wtf is that [censored]?!
i wanted to 4 bet (and prob shouldve?) but he hadnt done this in over 600 hands so what can he posibly be thinking? </font>


Flop: ($28.50) 7 T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15
<font color="blue"> is a ch/r better?
are we calling a shove if we ch/r?
how does b/f look? </font>


Turn: ($58.50) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32
<font color="blue"> thats a pretty crappy turn card. i think?
i dunno about my line here... probably the most difficult street</font>


River: ($122.50) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO INSTAbets $107.95 and is All-In</font> HERO WANTS TO BREAK SOMETHING BUT CAN'T CUZ HE BROKE EVERYTHING AFTER THE LAST [CENSORED] HAND
<font color="blue"> ok, so hes either FOS or hes not, right?
i really wasnt sure if i should be trying to play a huge pot or a small-medium one here. what do you guys think?</font>
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

i think minraising the flop is seksi

i think this is a fold these guys love lrr AK
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

4bet pre, c/r flop (call shove), fold turn.

I don't see why you would call turn and now fold to this river blank. Fold turn, or call river imo. You can't expect this crazy LAG to slow down on the river.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

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i think minraising the flop is seksi


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why?
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

i think you're beat a ton here. i would also raise flop w/ intention of getting it in.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

ya cr flop wouldve been my plan here or 4b pf.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

as played, I fold....get it in vs this guy pf or on the flop. He seems to be up on his sessions and is ready for alot of varience....a good example of winners' tilt. Are you cold calling pf trying to set him up or are you at all worried about kk/aa,...I for one wouldn't be at this point and would like to slow him down, even if it means he folds here and we win a small pot. Looks alot lot AK to me or better
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:30 PM
o_O-zZ o_O-zZ is offline
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

I see no real reasons for not 4bet him preflop. I pretty sure that QQ stay really ahead of his range there. So i easy 4bet him and probably fold if he shoves. If he just calls i would play for 2 stacks on this flop.
How u played: i like c/r on flop and fold if he shoves. And i would fold on turn.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

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4bet pre, c/r flop (call shove), fold turn.

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If you 4 bet preflop, you may not get a chance to checkraise the flop. I would 4 bet preflop and lead out on the flop getting it all in if possible. As played I think you need to fold the turn, but it would really piss me off to do it against this guy.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

i'm pretty sure I'd call preflop and cr flop
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