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11-04-2007, 05:01 PM
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($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
The villain is 27/8.
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t50/t100 7 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t2265 UTG+1: t1515 MP1: t3870 CO: t1435 Hero: t1200 SB: t1795 BB: t1420 Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t400</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t650)</font>. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t950, 2 players) UTG checks, Hero wakes up his neighbors and checks. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t950, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets t400</font>, Hero? 
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#2
11-04-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: ($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
villain is a loose donk, you're messed for chips w/ 800 left and he checked to you, I shove the flop... As played, fold turn, you're ahead of very little now.
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#3
11-04-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: ($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
I think I shove this preflop. As played, I push the flop more often than not for the remaining 800chips I have and pray he doesnt have an ace. Turn is an fold always for me.
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#4
11-04-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: ($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
Pushing the flop is not the best option if u intend getting your chips in the middle. It folds hands you are ahead of and u get called mostly by hands you are behind.
You will get more equity from hands that you are ahead by checking and allowing them to bet the turn. For me the turn is dependent on whether villian is capable of bluffing or not. IMO someone with 27 VPIP is going to bluff here often enough to make a shove okay but I would rather have a read rather then stats when making that descision.
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#5
11-04-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: ($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
i push turn , with so little left we are quite pot commited and he checked flop - good sign. Gotta get money in here and pushing flop is not good for that.
there are not many +EV lines for KK on A high flop but this one is least -ev i think.
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11-04-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: ($24) Doh, no ace on the flop against my KK one time!
Long way for a loose donk to limp/call something like 99-JJ preflop.
Also, long way to bet KT on the turn... And SCs, well, might be. Obviously 99 and TT are possible, but we seem to be behind in like 80%+ here....
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