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Old 06-02-2006, 11:38 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Flopped two pair, scary turn

6-handed. 10-2 suited in the BB.

UTG, who is weak/passive/terrible and what is more has posted a blind, raises. Button cold calls, SB calls, so I take the flop.

Flop is 10 5 2 with two clubs.

SB checks, I bet, UTG raises, button and SB fold, I 3-bet, UTG caps, I call.

UTG definitely has at least TPTK here, most likely an overpair IMO.

Turn: Ace of clubs.

Plan?

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Old 06-02-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

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UTG definitely has at least TPTK here, most likely an overpair IMO.


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Plan?

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Umm..checkraise
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

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Umm..checkraise

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Getting 3-bet would surely suck though. Hence I think I bet-call down.
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Old 06-02-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

Check/call.

If he checks through, bet the river.
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Old 06-02-2006, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

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Getting 3-bet would surely suck though.

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UTG, who is weak/passive/terrible

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UTG definitely has at least TPTK here, most likely an overpair IMO

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Not really. Seems like an easy fold to me unless he's spazzy in which case i really wouldn't mind putting 4 on the turn/river with 2 pair.

If you bet out, most likely he just calls down JJ QQ KK, and raises AT and or a set. So you win 2 bets when ahead and lose 3 when behind (assuming you call it down absent a gross river card)

If you checkraise, he calls down KK QQ JJ, and probably 3 bets a set or AT, so you win 3 when ahead and lose 2 when behind by folding to the 3 bet.

This is all assuming the T was a club. If the T wasn't a club there are a lot more reasonable hands he can have given that beat us given the flop action from a passive player and I'd proceed much more cautiously.
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Old 06-02-2006, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

Seeing the action so far, it looks like he is pushing as overpair. Since he's passive, I doubt he's pushing a flush draw against you. I bet the turn, call a raise. If he just calls i lead out any non [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] river.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

easy turn cr.

Betting blows.

Krishan
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

it depends on what YOUR deffinition of passive is...
if its the same as mine, then he couldn't have played AT this way.

he could only have AA KK QQ JJ TT I check call down.
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Old 06-02-2006, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: Flopped two pair, scary turn

i guess it depends on the degree of passivity of villain... but i think that the 3flush can even protect you from being 3bet on the Turn by AA/TT
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:54 AM
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he could only have AA KK QQ JJ TT I check call down.

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Way to miss a chunk of value.

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