200NL: Folding Bottom Set on the flop 125BBs

[cowpig]

i would probably call, crai non-club non-pair turn, lead pair turn, c/c or c/f club turn

if you think about it you will see ^ is amazingly +ev if villain is aggressive. If not just shove

[GSykes]

I hate these spots but I still go broke.

[viciouspenguin]

call sometimes, push sometimes depending on ranges and how light villain is willing to call a push.

call if no read

[fees]

do we have call equity?

[carrotsnake]

Kinda what vicious said. I'm not a great person with odds, but you have implied. All stars 200 regs are "squeezing" with QQ here, probably a few are with TT, but without a name, I'd assume no. If he's good, I don't see why he's raising here with KcQx, thats pretty bad imo. His raising range should be something like {pairs with a c in them that are toast, but think you'll fold to a raise(ie - if you've been laggier recently and a bet here means less}, flush, Acx(not so sure this is a raise, but I think most every stars 200 player is raising here with this hand cuz they gots an overcard and the nut flush draw), TT}. I think he shuts down on the turn a LOT with the first combo, and takes the free card with the second. The third will probably shove turn and if you don't improve, you can fold to that shove(not 100% on what odds you'll have, but I don't think it'll be close enough), TT I'm not so sure what it does on a blank turn, but your obviously f'ed to it anyway. However, I'm not 100% sure TT raises the flop with position.

With that half asses analysis, probably call flop and see what he does on the turn, blank or otherwise. This is assuming its not someone like Takinyour$(awful example, but I don't feel like coming up with names) who will go broke on this flop to a shove with KcQx or QT without thinking twice, then its an easy shove

[ikestoys]

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Please consider this hand deeper than omg set.

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well i honestly don't see that good of a reason to think deeper than that. Best line imo is to call and crai any non club turn.

[Wak3UpTheK1ng]

erff, properly rolled? I think I am c/c'ing him down, if he has it, oh well. If not, I'm sure he will keep firing away and try to take this pot from you with a hand you beat.

BTW, LOL about the comment on Takingyour$, he's a character.

[cs3]

after reading carrotsnakes post im kinda intereted now... results?
pm me if you dont want to out them here?