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Old 10-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Dyzalot Dyzalot is offline
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

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Recently posted on P5's and I have no idea as to the credibility of the poster so take this with a grain of salt.

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The question we should be asking is - who is Scott Tom?



My clients are shareholders of Absolute Poker. Scott Tom is still very much involved in Absolute Poker.



Everyone knows Poker is not legal in the United States. Scott Tom and his American cronies manipulated the corporate structure - playing the age-old shell game - to minimize their exposure to Absolute Poker.



Scott Tom controls everything from behind the scenes. So don't believe the [censored] "Absolute Poker Management" throws at you - because the Management is Scott Tom.



Scott Tom receives hefty income from Absolute Poker. Looking at his high-flying lifestyle - beautiful house in Costa Rica, luxury cars, frequent private jet travel around the World, and bodyguards - we estimate his income to be in the range of millions per year.



Is Scott Tom stupid enough to cheat the players that have made him wealthy and on top - get caught cheating?



Yes. Scott Tom and his cronies are indeed foolish. Suicidal foolish...



Absolute Poker Management states "Absolute Poker highly values and intends to protect its players, shareholders, business partners, and affiliates."



Let's discuss exactly how Scott Tom and his cronies have treated shareholders. These are the people that risked their hard-earned savings to give Absolute Poker its start many years ago.



Scott Tom and his cronies have totally blown off shareholders. While they are busy flying around the World spending thousands and thousands on luxury - shareholders have seen little more than a trickle.



Today, Shareholders are totally ignored by Scott Tom and his Absolute Poker Management. Calls and emails are ignored. Shareholders have no access to Scott Tom. Behind a curtain setup by lawyers, Absolute Poker was sold to yet another shell company belonging to Scott Tom. This minimized any return shareholders can get.



Despite this, shareholders are owed USD 250,000,000. Besides his father and other relatives being paid off secretly, the common shareholder after many delays and excuses can assume only that their money will never be paid back.



Scott Tom and his cronies live in Costa Rica. A country where killing can be bought for a few thousand dollars.



Ask yourself - if you stole $250,000,000 from investors and flaunt your wealth while letting them starve - would you expect to live a long and prosperous life?



Scott Tom and his cronies think so. They think an "independent poker commission" is going to clear them and the players will come rushing back to Absolute Poker. They think legal structures and lawyers will protect them from investors who have waited for many years to get their money back.



The worse problem Scott Tom now faces is Absolute Poker might fall apart because he cheated players. And he cannot pay back investors after giving himself, his cronies, and his family years of luxurious living using money that should have been paid to investors.



Scott Tom and his cronies have no future.



There is only one way out. Become honest. Pay back the players that they cheated. Pay back the investors they cheated. And do this quickly.



Time has run out for Scott Tom, his cronies, and Absolute Poker.

http://www.pocketfives.com/A22140A5-...951B89E6A.aspx

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i cant find the post in the link

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Sorry, it got moved to its own thread here.

http://www.pocketfives.com/14F2D6F6-...41330488E.aspx
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

Has anyone posted the thread about Seif leaving the cash table on tilt and coming back 5 seconds later and happened to begin to win and the other guy thought it was a godmode acct? Or is that ike?
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

Awesome work guys, eagerly awaiting thier statement..
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

I actually think Ikes perspective is very helpful. The majority of posters are saying that there is almost nothing Absolute can do to regain their trust. That would hardly motivate a company to come clean and make a sincere effort to repair their image.

The reality is that if the games are good, and if I believe they have compensated those who were wronged, fixed the security issues, and been very clear about who was involved and their current status with the company, then I may come back. Absolute is a well known site with a strong marketing machine and at this point it can choose to cover up and obfuscate, or come completely clean and draw people back with high quality games.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

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Just gave Drudge report anonymous tip online on the site about the scandal breaking out wide open and how they will admit to it. Let's see if he picks up the story. I posted links to MSNBC and the NYT blog since they are the most reputable and he has a connection with the NYT. He also probably has connections with MSNBC.

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Me too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Two days ago and yesterday.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

going to bed, expect more exciting developments while I'm gone
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:20 AM
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we won! we won!!!



WHAT THE F DID WE WIN?

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HOW MUCH DID WE LOSE?

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

Can someone in the know make a list of the lies that have been told by AP during their attempt to coverup?

At this point they shouldn't just be answering to the behavior of the players who comprised their system, but their own behavior over the past month.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

fwiw- I think the spin here for damage control against the crowd who will say "see told you it was rigged" or "may as well make it all illegal anyhow now" is that when something like this happens, the playing community cares enough and is resiliant enough to take it head on even if others won't.

This is really an incredible win for the online community- even if it may hurt in the short term.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:22 AM
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Congrats to all the detectives at P5's and 2+2
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