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Old 09-06-2007, 03:46 PM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

No reads on the villain apart from the fact that a few hands earlier he called a 3bet and my Cbet and took the pot down on the turn when I checked.

Is it worth Cbetting on such a bad board? Or is it a case of bet fold?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $52.20
BB: $50.05
UTG: $56.55
MP: $19.00
CO: $50.00
BTN: $62.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

You need to bet here, but it's tough. I'd bet pot since the board is so drawy. I'd fold to a big raise.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

huh.. bad board??? looks pretty good to me.. easy cbet.. if he raises it's a bit tricky - you're in shove or fold mode - this is opponent dependent, but I would be inclined to shove given stacks.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

I bet like 9-10 and shove if he 3-bets. There should be quite many sd, fd and combo draws in his range. Imo they should be more likely than say KJ or sets. Drawy board, but I'd gamble it.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

I bet 10, he min raised. He min raised me. Now what?

Surly shoving only folds out worse hands and better ones call.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

I hate the minraise it's always gold.. but if you decide to continue with the hand its a clear shove - at least make him pay if he's drawing
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

I think his range is somewhat wide - he openraised from the button and he already showed you he doesn't believe your raises + cbets. Many Js should be in his range (QJ,JT,J9 ..) + fds and maybe hands like KQ. And if he wants to get tricky maybe even more. I shove it cause I don't like folding that and calling isn't really an option oop. He'll bet his monsters for sure and draw for free with his draws if he wants.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

How's this for a hand range? After villain has raised me the pot is $43. Should I shove or fold? Any other hands people would included in this?

Board: Tc 9c Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.487% 28.70% 00.79% 5114 140.50 { AdQs }
Hand 1: 70.513% 69.73% 00.79% 12425 140.50 { QQ, TT-99, AcJc, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s }
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: TPTK dangerous board in 3bet pot

Yeah, why would he min-raise? If he's on a flush draw, he wouldn't min-raise. He could be getting sneaky with KJ.

What does a min-raise accomplish? It won't make you immediately fold, but it might make you shove. Maybe he has a pair of queens and a flush draw.
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