Train service to AC from NYC coming

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Trains don't hit traffic

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I see you've never ridden NJ Transit before.

[BigStack650]

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there are free jitneys to casinos that just drop you off

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I thought the jitneys cost money...

[Jeffage]

Not the ones that leave from the train station in AC - they are gratis. They arrive as the various NJ Transit trains show up and can take you to any casino you want.

Jeff

[Siegmund]

Have you all forgotten that this has ALREADY BEEN TRIED?

Amtrak and NJ transit worked together for years to reopen the line from Philadelphia to Atlantic City. In the early 90s Amtrak ran trains from both New York and Washington to Atlantic City -- and discontinued them after about a two-year trial period. NJT took over all of the Philadelphia runs.

The question you all need to be asking is, what are they going to do better this time? The original problems were the train station being in a questionable part of AC too far from most of the casinos, and only one or two casinos (if memory serves Harrah's) offering any package deals to the train riders.

Have either of these problems been fixed? (Obviously the train station hasn't moved - have new casinos opened adjacent to it in the last few years? I don't have any idea, having not been to the east coast since 1993.) Perhaps the second problem has been fixed if the casino operators actually are sponsoring the service rather than negotiating packages with Amtrak to sell through travel agencies.

[The DaveR]

Well, one important difference between the early 90s and now is that we're not in a recession.

[afish]

The train route will still have to go through (or at least close to) Philly. I really can't see how this will compete with the bus service, which only costs a net $14 round trip at worst ($31 round trip ticket cost - $17 back from casino). If the casinos want to comp people train rides, great, but I don't see train ticket prices being competitive with the bus ticket prices.

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Have you all forgotten that this has ALREADY BEEN TRIED?

Amtrak and NJ transit worked together for years to reopen the line from Philadelphia to Atlantic City. In the early 90s Amtrak ran trains from both New York and Washington to Atlantic City -- and discontinued them after about a two-year trial period. NJT took over all of the Philadelphia runs.

The question you all need to be asking is, what are they going to do better this time? The original problems were the train station being in a questionable part of AC too far from most of the casinos, and only one or two casinos (if memory serves Harrah's) offering any package deals to the train riders.

Have either of these problems been fixed? (Obviously the train station hasn't moved - have new casinos opened adjacent to it in the last few years? I don't have any idea, having not been to the east coast since 1993.) Perhaps the second problem has been fixed if the casino operators actually are sponsoring the service rather than negotiating packages with Amtrak to sell through travel agencies.

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Eh. AC is so much different these days that it was 10-15 years ago. You wouldn't even believe it.

The train station is right near a large convention center and hotel and now there is basically a strip of brand new outlets shops (brand names, for sure) running between that area and the boardwalk. You probably wouldn't even rocognize it.

And amtrak still runs to philly.

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the people on the bus are no different from the people I meet every day in the subway

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This is not saying much. A homeless guy almost threw up on my shoe on monday on the E train

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the people on the bus are no different from the people I meet every day in the subway

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This is not saying much. A homeless guy almost threw up on my shoe on monday on the E train

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We might've been riding the same E-train.

[BrooklynPoker]

Someone said the train would still have to run through philly...not if I read it right. I think the plan is to elongate the jersey shore line farther south to AC...
making it go through philly to AC would make it a three hour (at best) trip and that is not what they are saying