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Old 11-18-2007, 05:53 PM
bobman0330 bobman0330 is offline
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How much energy could a human produce through physical labor/activity? Seems like if an efficient way to do this was created, we could employ a bunch of homeless people to basically work out.

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Good plan, but it might be necessary to hook them up to a huge virtual reality sim to keep them docile. We'll need an autonomous AI program to police any rabble-rousers too. But otherwise it should work, as long as the laws of thermodynamics don't apply...
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:05 PM
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How much energy could a human produce through physical labor/activity? Seems like if an efficient way to do this was created, we could employ a bunch of homeless people to basically work out.

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Good plan, but it might be necessary to hook them up to a huge virtual reality sim to keep them docile. We'll need an autonomous AI program to police any rabble-rousers too. But otherwise it should work, as long as the laws of thermodynamics don't apply...

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In case anything goes wrong with the AI program we better prepare ourselves by learning some karate.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:40 PM
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How much energy could a human produce through physical labor/activity? Seems like if an efficient way to do this was created, we could employ a bunch of homeless people to basically work out.

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I think Lance Armstrong could only manage around 4-600 Watts of sustained output when we was in racing condition, so call it 3KW over the 4 or 5 hours of racing. At a cost of about 8-9000 calories.

It'd take a lot of homeless and lot of cheeseburgers.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:54 PM
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Patience my friend. Solar power is inefficient now. In 20 years nanotechnology will provide light weight efficient solar panels and efficient fuel cells to store the energy. We only need to capture one percent of one percent of the sunlight that strikes the earth to meet our energy needs. We will start to see solar power being used more as it becomes cost effective, which it will soon. In about twenty years it'll be everywhere.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:00 PM
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How much energy could a human produce through physical labor/activity? Seems like if an efficient way to do this was created, we could employ a bunch of homeless people to basically work out.

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Good plan, but it might be necessary to hook them up to a huge virtual reality sim to keep them docile. We'll need an autonomous AI program to police any rabble-rousers too. But otherwise it should work, as long as the laws of thermodynamics don't apply...

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In case anything goes wrong with the AI program we better prepare ourselves by learning some karate.

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Are you going to store them near the earth's core? Where its still warm?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:46 AM
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people dont get it yet. it isnt going to happen that we will produce enough cheap power to provide for todays wasteful ways.

the only way we can get out of this mess is to consrve energy and not waste it. that will be by having power costs go way up or the govt. rationing it.

look out your window at night and see the sky still lit up. or the long lines of traffic going 50 miles to work each day. that will all change with high costs, and it should.

solar is our answer as it is there and easy to use. wind power is costly and kills birds and ruins landscape. is that what we want to look at in the future.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:36 AM
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people dont get it yet. it isnt going to happen that we will produce enough cheap power to provide for todays wasteful ways.

the only way we can get out of this mess is to consrve energy and not waste it. that will be by having power costs go way up or the govt. rationing it.

look out your window at night and see the sky still lit up. or the long lines of traffic going 50 miles to work each day. that will all change with high costs, and it should.

solar is our answer as it is there and easy to use. wind power is costly and kills birds and ruins landscape. is that what we want to look at in the future.

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Your posts remind me of Gary Busey in Entourage.
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