Teach me how to check a flop (part 2)

[Bond18]

A few months back i made a post that talked about my difficulty knowing when to check a flop after being the PFR.

I'd like to extend on that idea here: When do I check flops after being the pre flop reraiser?

Assuming i've reraised a player with either a large hand or on a resteal with roughly 40 BB comperable stacks, on what kind of textures should i always be firing? Always be checking? As a standard check-shove my good draws that i flop? What about intending to check fold?

I'll bring some example hands into this later, kinda on vacation right now so might be a bit.


Thanks, Bond

[shaundeeb]

OOP or in pos?

[BadgerPro]

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When do I check flops after being the pre flop reraiser?

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Also, are we talking only about times when you've 3bet preflop? Not when you've open raised and gotten called?

[ItalianFX]

So what Shaundeeb and Badger are saying is that it's not exactly that easy to answer.

[Oatmeal]

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When do I check flops after being the pre flop reraiser?

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Also, are we talking only about times when you've 3bet preflop? Not when you've open raised and gotten called?

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To be fair both can be confusing. So, I also have this problem (in both situations) is it a big one?

[betgo]

It is standard to cbet an ace or king high flop. If you raised in early position or particularly reraised, then cbet a low choppy flop, representing a big pair. If you raised in middle position, you generally don't bet a low flop, since it is likely you have high cards and the caller has a pp.

A paired board or a dry flop with a high card is good to cbet against a donk, but not against a good ggressive player.

You generally don't cbet a flop like JT9 with a 2-flush, unless you hit it pretty hard.

It depends on how many callers, if you are in position, stack sizes, how villain and table are playing, your image, etc.

I am not real fond of cbets. Not cbetting doesn't always mean folding.

[shaundeeb]

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So what Shaundeeb and Badger are saying is that it's not exactly that easy to answer.

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well there are a million poss scenarios and last time if I recall bond had a specific situation picked out and a hand picked out which made it easier. Each way has a bunch of diff answers i.e OOP when raising OOP when 3betting OOP 4betting in pos raising etc.

[ItalianFX]

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So what Shaundeeb and Badger are saying is that it's not exactly that easy to answer.

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well there are a million poss scenarios and last time if I recall bond had a specific situation picked out and a hand picked out which made it easier. Each way has a bunch of diff answers i.e OOP when raising OOP when 3betting OOP 4betting in pos raising etc.

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That's what I'm saying.

[Bond18]

I'm talking about flops where we have REraised pre. Lets start off talking about being out of position and having to figure out your plan with no additional information from villain.

[schwah]

i dont think its very frequently correct to not cbet after 3betting pf in a hu pot. 1 situation where i do occasionally is on a dry board when ive got a very strong hand against a spewy opponent and effective stacks are fairly shallow.

i just think that you've given yourself so much fold equity by 3betting pf that not taking advantage of it by betting the flop has to almost always be a big mistake. interested in what others have to say though.