NLTRN: Raising range vs. pre-flop limpers

[Vinetou]

OK, so I wasn't out of line. The same problem with me. You were talking about 3betting in your last post - isn't this thread about raising the limpers? 3betting is a total different beast.

[Somekid]

Yeah, sorry about that, that was a typo, I'll fix it. I meant to say raising a limper.

[Collin Moshman]

My range against a guy who is not limping super-narrow is much wider, essentially any hand that has any post-flop potential for when I'm called. Against a chronic limper who has any chance of folding to an OOP raise, I'll pop it as wide as:

45o+
34s+
57o+
69o+
7Jo+
Q2s+
Q5o+
22+
K2+

Risking 3 BB to win 2 BB gives you a good immediate investment on the steal, and your c-bet will often take it when you miss after showing strength pre-flop.

The time to tighten and raise limps strictly for value, IMO, is when your opponent is very loose (passive or aggro) and will rarely fold to a normal raise.

-- Collin