Chris Vaughn BluffMag multiaccounting

[Body Man D]

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someone whose friends with him ask him to introduce himself to me at the next live event we are both at so I can laugh at his lying cheating unethical self. Tried to lie even more saying how good he was etc when in fact I was right about ftp whole time. Also he said how many people could vouch for him at the time LOL proven wrong you should stick to being a writer and leave the playing to the players....oh way you do do that you are useless even as a shell for someone better then you.

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From the million thread.

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to the guy whose account it is

Do you confirm/deny allegations you sold your stack in the FTP mil the prev week when you won?

Also, the IP thing means nothing if you sold your stack we know how JJ plays when he's on the phone with someone.


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actually i am not even gonna reply
i had a sick two weeks and have to hear [censored] like this

gifafi or whatever

Edited by MF Doom (10/30/07 11:33 AM)

Million thread. Kind of funny to read again.

[IWEARGOGGLES]

The 100r will be so much easier if all the cheaters keep getting caught!

[BillyBizzle]

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The 100r will be so much easier if all the cheaters keep getting caught!

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It's called an 18 person $320 sng.

[Jurollo]

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The 100r will be so much easier if all the cheaters keep getting caught!

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It's called an 18 person $1009 sng.

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[akcbr954]

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The 100r will be so much easier if all the cheaters keep getting caught!

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It's called an 18 person $320 sng.

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[TomHimself]

kong did u get any more money from FT?

Yes first place i believe (congrats Søren. What a year).

Which is why he was playing 200 400 plo earlier today lol.

[Kongsgaard]

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Yes first place i believe (congrats Søren. What a year).

Which is why he was playing 200 400 plo earlier today lol.

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Ty Bjørn
Haha, yeah I gave it a shot for 8k.
Sick 66k$ pot I lost to Gus.

[good2cu]

The sites need to outline clear rules and enforce them equally and without bias.. I think most people are naive if they believe this doesn't help with regularly and is generally accepted among tournament players. Would it of been OK if whoever played his account instead sweated his table and coached him over the phone? If this is not OK how is it enforced? If is not enforceable isn’t this giving dishonest players a huge edge over honest players. Is it ok for cash game players or MTT players to receive coaching while playing hands (a rather common situation that the community as a whole accepts, which in my opinion is just as unethical as having someone play your account if not more so)?

All of the above are common occurrences; many pros that FTP endorses partake in such practices. It is [censored] imo that the sites are seizing this amount of money without first setting clear rules.

Just to be clear I rarely play online MTTs(and have never final tabled one) and have never played on anyone else’s account or had anyone play on mine beside in rare instances where I went to the bathroom and had a friend play a hand or once during the WCOOP main event this year (which I didn’t cash in) where I had a friend play for me for an hour while coached him over the phone because the internet went out in Aruba (40 or so other people did the same thing). Are these actions unethical and illegal? Where do we draw the line? This is life changing money we’re talking about and the sites need to make very clear what is acceptable and what is not before action like this is taken.

The sites and the community as a whole need to outline clear ethical standards about whats accpected and whats not.

Edit: I know that I might draw criticism for these comments but I know most high-stakes players feel the same way (I know this directly from conversations with them). I feel that acting ethically is very important for not only the sake of the game of the whole but for a poker player’s career. But the problem is there is no clear ethical guidelines provided by the sites or the community and that makes it very hard to act act ethically when most ‘illegal’ practices are generally known about and accepted among the (high-stakes) community. I personally think it’s better to take the high-road in all situations but this is naive and unrealistic to except or anyone with this type of money at stake.

[burningyen]

I wonder if we'll see a story about this in Bluff, lol.