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Old 01-10-2007, 09:41 AM
puckle puckle is offline
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

Stigmata, your invocation of Ray Bonnert is entirely apt.

Please visit my thread on bots where I discuss him, amongst other things. Bot Thread

Regards,
puckle.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

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What does stars do if they catch you datamining? (i.e. datamining from the same IP that you play on, not necessarily the same account)

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It seems like they are turning a blind eye towards it. I'm pretty sure that Stars standard procedure, were they to make an example of someone, would be to close the account, ban the person, but return all funds.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:48 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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What does stars do if they catch you datamining? (i.e. datamining from the same IP that you play on, not necessarily the same account)

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It is easy to detect, a single screenshot of your HUD run towards a hand database is all it takes, but since we have never heard of any such stories, I guess they turn a blind eye?
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

Arnfinn, I'm confused--would you please explain what that means?
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:11 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

Ok, you have played 200 hands vs a player, and your HUD says you have played 500.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:19 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

Just to clarify, I think they have a lot more important things to do than that.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:20 AM
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Oh okay thanks arnfinn that makes more sense. Well, another easy way for them to tell if you've been datamining is if you spend a large amount of time observing the max # of tables at once.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

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One thing they need to understand is that its impossible to do both :
a)allow to observe hands
b)eliminate datamining


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Can't they allow a different, easily changed SN to be displayed on the tables (not the same SN that you login)? Or would it open another different can of worms?
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

A few months ago I asked Stars support if a some of the datamining programs/scripts where legal. This is the response I got.

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Management is currently reviewing those particular software packages and
have not made a decision regarding them. If they do become illegal they
will be posted on the website.

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Old 01-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of datamining on stars?

that gives everyone a pretty sweet CYA, at least for now.
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