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Old 12-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default 10NL - river decision with bottom pair + busted straight draw

The Villain (UTG) in this hand is playing 72/30/1.5 over about 50 or 60 hands, and all of his raises have been min-raises. Post-flop, he has shown several successful bluffs, and also has made some questionably loose calls with mediocre hands. From the chat, it's clear that he also thinks I bluff too much. I haven't really made any big bluffs in this session but I have c-bet normally and he has seen me fold to a raise on the flop or a re-raise preflop.

A few questions: Regarding the turn, I felt like a great deal of both player's ranges would be draws, and that my lonely pair of deuces could be the best hand. Because the villain thinks I bluff too much I figured he could also call pretty loosely with just an ace-high flush draw. Do you bet this turn or take a free card? What range do you give to UTG on the turn (before I bet) and on the river after he bets. Given reads, do you ever call the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($6.45)
CO ($11.40)
Hero ($9.80)
SB ($15.35)
BB ($2.80)
UTG ($11.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.2</font>, MP calls $0.20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.55</font>, BB calls $0.55, UTG calls $0.55, MP folds.

Turn: ($2.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.2</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $2.20.

River: ($6.90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.1</font>, Hero ?
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Reefypoopoo Reefypoopoo is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - river decision with bottom pair + busted straight draw

I dont always bet turn.

I guess we can argue for a call since every single draw missed. But a 4 or 5 or J are def in his range.

Calling is prob neutral EV though you prob lost the hand from your posting tells.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: 10NL - river decision with bottom pair + busted straight draw

I posted reads mainly because I think this is a pretty easy fold without them.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: 10NL - river decision with bottom pair + busted straight draw

I think checking the turn is good for pot control etc. Even with your reads I think the river is a fold.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: 10NL - river decision with bottom pair + busted straight draw

I think this hand is definitely a fold, preflop. Regardless, with the way it went down and according to the read I think its pretty bad. You said the guy thinks you bluff to much, this hand IS a bluff. If your read is right, and it probably is, he is gonna be calling you down light, making your FE non-existant, something that 23s is gonna need if you plan on playing it and making it +ev. Tighten your range, play better postflop, (ie. isolate this guy and VALUE bet the [censored] out of him). Don't play these [censored] hands, you have no FE against him, use that to your advantage, not his.

BTW, when I saw tighten your range, I mean tighten it so your not playing 23s and other total garbage. You want to be in more HU pots with this player but that doesn't mean you should be playing looser than him.
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