Average Speed XVII Game Thread

[Bulletproof Monk]

anyway im watching a vid so ill go through every player in order:

Villager -> Wolf.

Bulletproof Monk: Dont know what i can say that clears me. I dont think ive done anything so far this game that really leans one way or the other. Most other active players seem to have me relatively confirmed tho so i guess that helps. Obviously if i get any kind of pressure Ill go back and find some real evidence (for example, im pretty sure my GT1T/Supine interaction is pretty strange wolf play).

clowntable: Clown villager tone. Hasnt cared whatsoever about who anyone else suspects, has just come up with random suspects and gotten them lynched. Pushing VR there to lynch is something i dont think wolf clown does ever, particularly after 3 down on the wolf side.

DustinG: This one is pretty obvious too i think. Nez was 100%. So was shortline if i remember correctly. And so am i.

fnord_too: Shortline was pretty much certain. Very standard fnord so far. His name keeps coming up too which would make sense for wolfs to be pushing him at this stage.

Nicholasp27: Didnt know shorty was killed, and if i remember rite he is fairly anti-fps like this in any role. Very uninterested in the game. Almost never a wolf here.

fishmonger: Pretty random so far. sudden flurry of action yesterday i think. relatively villagery.

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bojtun - He has been really, really off all game. He isnt even trying and has contributed like nothing of value since the game began. For others this is villagery but for boj this is ridiculous. Im only leaving him this high because of people like dustin being unwilling to push him. Nez dying last nite is a perfect boj kill.

ScottHoward v3.1: His absence is starting to become very telling.

lastchance: Used the word evaluation yesterday. Fairly absent in terms of content. On many villagers suspect lists, including VR. Looking like a better lynch every day this game goes on.

fmxda: Just flatout wolfy. Not sure what else to say. Quite amazed he didnt go before VR/bravos.

Supine: Absolutely ridiculous nervous/jumpy day 1. Has barely posted since. Was cleared by like everyone and utr on day 3 when gt1t said 'everything was going so well'.

[ScottHoward v3.1]

first off, im voting for 1 day over the weekend
second, i should have plenty of time today, yay

[Bulletproof Monk]

Supine's Day 1 BEFORE NOON:

A lot of ppl cleared him for this, i cant be bothered to check if they were wolfs or villagers but it stands to reason that many may have been wolfs.

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Theme is sooo good.

I work late today, which means I cannot post between 12 and 9 pm, but I should be here before deadline.

I am a villlager, will try to read voraciously and participate as much as I can.

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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Sure. I don't see why you don't like me claiming villager. I'm simply honest. Look up the turbos I've played.

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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Sure. I don't see why you don't like me claiming villager. I'm simply honest. Look up the turbos I've played.

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I understand this and have so far never claimed villager first post as a wolf (been wolf three times), so for this game I think it's a great strategy. I will evolve eventually, but I'd like to play my first long game in a straightforward manner.

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Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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It will of course be useless after a while, but for now it's a viable strategy.

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Well I'm out to work, I presume I will have heavy reading to do tonight. have a nice evening

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or day, w/e americans

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Supine: the fact that you now contemplate deviating in the future makes it useless now. Do you see why?

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I see your point, but my way of progression would more likely include stop claiming villager even if I am a villager, to stop claiming villager altogether, until finally alternating between claiming villager and not doing so in a hopefully random and unreadable way. For this game I can assure you my line of true villager claims is unbroken. I'm sure it will become obvious later anyhow.

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Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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It will of course be useless after a while, but for now it's a viable strategy.

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what exactly is the strategy?

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Since you can see that I've been a villager every time I've claimed to be, you would reason it is more likely for me to be a villager this time as well. I do realize I eventually have to change, but see above post.

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I see your point, but my way of progression would more likely include stop claiming villager even if I am a villager, to stop claiming villager altogether,

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am i crazy or is this the same thing?

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No you're correct that does not make sense. cut one line

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supine
probably not changing

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I expected this. You've struck me as the worst of the experienced players in pog from the few turbos we've played together. You also seem to vote me every single game i've been a villager (not sure if you have played with me when I've been a wolf).

On the plus side this makes me believe you are a villager, abysmal though

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btw this is me spazzing out as a villager 10 hours before lynch, omg don't lynch me ever

im out

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You've struck me as the worst of the experienced players in pog from the few turbos we've played together.

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i am teh suck at ww

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nah sorry I overreacted. That was mean of me

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[Bulletproof Monk]

keeping in mind the above is from a heavily utr player and with no pressure

[ScottHoward v3.1]

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clowntable: Clown villager tone. Hasnt cared whatsoever about who anyone else suspects, has just come up with random suspects and gotten them lynched. Pushing VR there to lynch is something i dont think wolf clown does ever, particularly after 3 down on the wolf side.

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this is a villager tell now? and what suspects did clown get lynched? iirc, he wanted to lynch/suspected nez,lastchance,nich,fmx, dustin, fish, and vr lately. i dont think vr got lynched because of clown, so again, wheres all the players clown has been targetting and lynching?
im going to look back at the vr lynch, but at the moment, your thoughts on clown appear 100% fabricated.

also, i noticed a clown post where he explained about kenny being odd because he revealed his real identity too quickly. but if i remeber right, didnt you reveal as fast if not faster? curious clown hasnt suspected you for that or even mentioned it.
ill look back at this as well to be sure

[Bulletproof Monk]

it is for clown.

he did get vr lynched, go back and check.

scott - trying to find a link between me and clown as wolfs together is pretty pointless as the 2 of us are two of the most confirmed players left, there are only 2 wolfs left, and so you would have to go perfect-perfect. percentage plays please....

[Bulletproof Monk]

keep in mind that despite what you think, if this game goes another 2+ days at least one of me and clown will be dead.

[ScottHoward v3.1]

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it is for clown.

he did get vr lynched, go back and check.

scott - trying to find a link between me and clown as wolfs together is pretty pointless as the 2 of us are two of the most confirmed players left, there are only 2 wolfs left, and so you would have to go perfect-perfect. percentage plays please....

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i will definitely check. hopefully your definition of pushing for a lynch is the same as mine.
and, when did i say you were a wolf with him?
2 of the most cleared? you cant be serious.

[ScottHoward v3.1]

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keep in mind that despite what you think, if this game goes another 2+ days at least one of me and clown will be dead.

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lynched or killed?

[Bulletproof Monk]

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also, i noticed a clown post where he explained about kenny being odd because he revealed his real identity too quickly. but if i remeber right, didnt you reveal as fast if not faster? curious clown hasnt suspected you for that or even mentioned it.
ill look back at this as well to be sure

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what were you suggesting with this?

if clown was a wolf then me and kenny looked the same.
if clown was a villager then me and kenny looked the same.

neil entered this game because he wanted to play on a gimmick, and THEN came out.

i entered this game on a gimmick due to other factors and always intended to come out.