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Old 11-13-2007, 01:55 PM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default JJ OOP

New to table, no stats or reads on villain. What do we do on the turn here? I didn't want to bet and turn JJ into a bluff, river is a fold against an unknown right? Still trying to adjust to the higher aggressiveness in 100nl.


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BB ($116.15)
UTG ($23.65)
MP ($97)
Button ($199.20)
Hero ($99)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $8.

Flop: ($22) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12.5</font>, Button calls $12.50.

Turn: ($47) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

River: ($67) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $67
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:36 PM
poincaraux poincaraux is offline
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Default Re: JJ OOP

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this spot as well.

I hate folding for such tiny bets, but I find that I almost never win if I call down here.

I feel like our hand is sooo transparent when we play like this .. like we're screaming "PLEASE LET ME HAVE ONE HAND WORTH OF POT CONTROL" the whole time.

Against a lot of people, I bet the turn. I've been seeing a lot of these minraises with hands like KJs, etc. preflop, so I think that the ace should be a good scare card. But maybe betting again after the turn is just lighting money on fire .. I dunno. Like I said, I'd like some help in these spots too.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:40 PM
riske riske is offline
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Default Re: JJ OOP

I bet more on flop, and I bet turn too.

As played you have to call, diamonds missed and some people like to make small retarded bluffs.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:54 PM
dersl dersl is offline
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Default Re: JJ OOP

i usually b/f that turn..don't like the passive line
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:54 PM
jds1201 jds1201 is offline
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Default Re: JJ OOP

i definitely would bet more on the flop.

i don't know what to do with that river bet. it's so small, but what diamond hands can he have that we can beat? KQ and...?

We don't have to be good often, but KQd and 88 are the only hands I can find that we can beat.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:28 PM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default Re: JJ OOP

how do people feel about the 2nd barrel on the turn here against an unknown?...as played, if the river was a blank, could we call a river bet?
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