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Old 09-05-2007, 10:15 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default 200NL KK preflop

This isn't any sort've bad beat post, I actually think it's pretty close here. With 50BBs I can just stick it in but here RIO sort've seem to apply and if I'm playing (can I fold?) should I call or raise (any raise is equilivant to a shove?)
Reads are table is fairly tight about from hero who has a lag image. Nothing like this has happened before.

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MP ($42.80)
Button ($22)
SB ($193)
Hero ($403.90)
UTG ($200)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $44</font>,
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

That is a LOT of action before you. Wow.

I honestly think this is one of the times to fold it pre.

We're ahead of BTN's range definitely but SB looks rly strong.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

i guess no reads/stats??

i still see a raise here, button just shoved and SB might be trying to isolate and get it in with him...

i don't see a fold with the dead money in the pot, though i'm wondering if people like a fold PF if we reraise and then the others play back at us...is shove really bad here?? i usually hate 4betting as it gives our hand away...
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

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i guess no reads/stats??

i still see a raise here, button just shoved and SB might be trying to isolate and get it in with him...

i don't see a fold with the dead money in the pot, though i'm wondering if people like a fold PF if we reraise and then the others play back at us...is shove really bad here?? i usually hate 4betting as it gives our hand away...

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If SB was trying to isolate, why wouldn't he raise to like 70? He made like a 1.5x raise.

And if we raise here there's like no way we can fold with all the money in the pot.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

fold duh, why would you want to push the second nuts
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

If I really had a lag image, I would shove.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

shove
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

Button shoves, SB min-raises to isolate. Shoving is what I would do with AK here and so I mix up a shove with a smooth call with AA and KK. However, with UTG still hanging around, shoving is probably the best option. (I hate these spots and am open to having my mind changed.)
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK preflop

BTN really makes this hand much easier. If they were all 100bb+ deep, I would consider my options, but remember that BTN shoves for 11bb. SB could have JJ+,AQ+ trying to isolate. This is far far from a fold, and if we're raising, we can just shove. Not close.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:27 AM
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I am all in, baby.
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