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Old 05-23-2007, 03:06 AM
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Default 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

Original opener is WhinnePie. Villain is play2kill. We're 200BB deep. I don't like any of the options. If I 4bet I probably have to fold to a 5bet. If I call I'm oop with a lot of money left to play. Folding AK preflop isn't allowed, right?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $25/$50 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $3,329.80
BB: $1,000.00
UTG: $5,000.00
UTG+1: $5,677.00
MP1: $3,919.00
<font color="black">Hero (MP2): $10,548.00</font>
CO: $15,246.00
BTN: $5,397.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $200.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $200.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $800.00</font>, 4 folds, Hero ???
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

ez fold pf imo

CO 3bet a UTG raiser..and your hand figures to be at best even money/ dominated/ you are oop/ deep..
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

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ez fold pf imo

CO 3bet a UTG raiser..and your hand figures to be at best even money/ dominated/ you are oop/ deep..

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Old 05-23-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

whatever you do, definitely don't fold. You can't really get away with raise/calling here, but despite this fact I don't actually hate a 4-bet.

I think call is fine.

-Jeff
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

4bet
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

without knowing anything about the villains, i'd say call. he won't put us on AK, so we stand to make some bets when we get there, and have some bluffing potential on medium boards if we want it.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

call looks good to me. take a flop
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:43 AM
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without knowing anything about the villains, i'd say call. he won't put us on AK, so we stand to make some bets when we get there, and have some bluffing potential on medium boards if we want it.

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play2kill is a good LAG who squeezes very frequently, especially in a stack situation like this one. He is capable of light 4 bets as well, especially when he is not the original raiser. However I think its very unlikely that he 5-bets a 4 bet here light, so like Ike said we can't really play for stacks.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK

ugh i hate calling w/ AK in spots like these for obvious reverse implied odds reasons, though I think calling is clearly better than the alternatives.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:47 AM
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ugh i hate calling w/ AK in spots like these for obvious reverse implied odds reasons, though I think calling is clearly better than the alternatives.

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just c/r a lot, reverse implied isn't that scary [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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