Which Bluff(s) Worked?

fsuplayer · #1 09-14-2006, 07:32 PM

back to this game once again: which one(s) of these did i win?

Hand 1: villian is forum HU king EM2. for a little while he used to play way over aggressive against me, but the last couple weeks, we have played a decent amount and he has been showing me a good amount of respect. He has paid me off less than most regulars probably would in similar spots. I feel like he reraises AK most of the time pf, but might not always i guess. I feel like AT will have a tough time calling and not sure about AQ.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop

Button ($3703.22)
SB ($3141.64)
BB ($2714)
Hero ($2946.48)
MP ($1823.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero raises to $70, 3 folds, BB calls $50.

Flop: ($150) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $130, BB calls $130.

Turn: ($410) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $340, BB calls $340.

River: ($1090) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $955

Hand 2: villian is boooostedJ. he 3 bets a [censored] ton, always. i have recently begun calling his pf 3 bets with a pretty huge range, which he knows. we played tons of pots together that day, with me probably getting the best of it, but he has also ran into a couple big hands of mine.
he hesitated maybe 10-12 secs on the turn and checked the river after about 5 secs. I wasnt sure if i was done with the hand when he called the turn, but that river pretty much forced me to bluff again i think.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop
SB ($1980)
BB ($9865)
UTG ($2006)
MP ($5204)
Hero ($5453)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
2 folds, Hero raises to $70, 1 fold, BB raises to $235, Hero calls $185.

Flop: ($520) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $355, Hero calls $355.

Turn: ($1230) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $800, BB calls $800.

River: ($2830) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1200

pfr here is unknown but has a taggish screename and samo is the in-between caller.

I had been fairly quiet on the table thus far.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|
UTG ($3490.73)
MP ($3775.18)
Hero ($6063.31)
Button ($4620.25)
SB ($91.24)
BB ($904.14)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
UTG raises to $94.77, MP calls $94.77, Hero calls $94.77, 3 folds.

Flop: ($314.31) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets $127.17, MP calls $127.17, Hero raises to $645, UTG calls $517.83, MP folds.

Turn: ($1731.48) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1731.48) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1250

any comments appreciated.

fsuplayer

okayplayer · #2 09-14-2006, 07:40 PM

I would say you likely won hand 2, though I am not sure it's a bluff. I could see you winning hand 1, but it just kinda seems like a bluff, so I would tend to think it gets picked off by an A. Hand 3, I can't see you winning.

KRANTZ · #3 09-14-2006, 07:42 PM

1- i think you got called

2-i think worked, basically b/c the board texture is so ugly for most of his range

3-i think you got called or c/red, but it's also possible he folded, although im leaning towards thinking this one didn't work

i love these posts, btw

yvesaint · #4 09-14-2006, 07:43 PM

i think only 2 worked

fsuplayer · #5 09-14-2006, 07:44 PM

edited to say that i [censored] up when making the OP and in the 3rd hand, obviously i was against the pfr. i got messed up when posting the hand and hence my hand range for him is retarded.

ill delete it out.

fsuplayer · #6 09-14-2006, 07:47 PM

okay and krantz- if u dont mind, id still love to hear comments about hand #3 with the new edit.

okayplayer · #7 09-14-2006, 08:14 PM

Well, I'm playing so I'll try and make some quick comments...

Hand 1: You seem to be betting a larger amount than what seems normal for a good/strong hand. There are no draws out and it looks like you want to put him to a tougher decision by calling bigger bets.

Hand 2: Boosted has a wide rr range, esp. from a LP opener, so on the flop he cbets to take it down, and then he c/c turn, which seems like he has a questionable hand with some type of overcards/straight draw (with a Q). I think he plays a semi strong to strong hand a lot more aggressively.

Hand 3: It looks like a steal on the flop after he weak leads into a decent field on a drawy flop and so after he calls, and you check behind the turn, it looks more so like a steal though I can see a draw doing this as well, but then when the flush hits on the river, he's like, "well, he may have been on a steal, and this is a perfect card to try and take it away from me on, so I call". Plus, he very well, could have a flush or straight himself.

fsuplayer · #8 09-14-2006, 08:17 PM

triumph-

hand #2's bet was intentionally sized that way.

KRANTZ · #9 09-14-2006, 08:29 PM

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okay and krantz- if u dont mind, id still love to hear comments about hand #3 with the new edit.

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ah. well, i think most average unknown players might lead the river with an overpair or flush after the turn got checked through, so they might have Tx and then fold to your bet. although unknowns sometimes surprise me with good lines.

but i'm still erring on the side of they're going to call you, mainly because you checked the turn and the pot was kept as small as possible for whatever hand they have. IMO, if you're going to raise this flop with air (against an unknown) and don't pick up any backdoor outs or a pair on the turn, you need to follow through on the turn or give up the bluff.

cardsharkk04 · #10 09-14-2006, 07:47 PM

I think 2 might have worked (although I would have bet more)

I think #3 was your worst bluff. I always get called when I check behind on the turn and then fire the river.