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Old 08-31-2007, 02:38 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: FUH KIN WIERD

what does he have to be embarrassed of, everyone makes a mistake/bluffs in a while. Anyway can we come to a conclusion if a shove or a call is better
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:43 PM
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meh, it's close. the things duck said are right and the things i said are right.

like i said, i was instantly going to CRAI and i fken froze up for some reason. i am still pretty sure that's the best play, followed by call, but both are fine given the circumstances.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:44 PM
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everyone thinks its such an easy call after they see the HH

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lemme give you a hint. no one has ever gotten rich by bluffing AEMFJ. glad you enjoyed your moment in the sun, though.

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Ya i think i played i well, the intent was to confuse him obv and it worked

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97% of the time I call there. The fact you just stuck a bunch of money in with second pair top kicker on a three to a straight board (snap call btw lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl) made me think you wouldn't bluff me.

People who are dumb enough to bluff me usually end up broke.

TBH, I was just ending a short session and was just closing out tables and going WTF is going on in this hand.

I'm glad you think the bluff is good tho, MSNL is goooooood.

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first hand was awfully playwed by me, doesnt hurt to admit that, i knews it was a situation where ud put me on a better hand then ur second pair which was practially face up. Glad ur so embarassed that u feel the need to defend urself so much.

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I am EXTRAORDINARILY embarrassed that I thought you were decent.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: FUH KIN WIERD

You have ripped ActionJackson's line, so what line would you suggest for him if he had KQ no club and/or KQ one club instead of a bluff?
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:46 PM
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You have ripped ActionJackson's line, so what line would you suggest for him if he had KQ no club and/or KQ one club instead of a bluff?

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Can't reveal that information, it's too indepth!
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:50 PM
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everyone thinks its such an easy call after they see the HH

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lemme give you a hint. no one has ever gotten rich by bluffing AEMFJ. glad you enjoyed your moment in the sun, though.

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Ya i think i played i well, the intent was to confuse him obv and it worked

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97% of the time I call there. The fact you just stuck a bunch of money in with second pair top kicker on a three to a straight board (snap call btw lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl) made me think you wouldn't bluff me.

People who are dumb enough to bluff me usually end up broke.

TBH, I was just ending a short session and was just closing out tables and going WTF is going on in this hand.

I'm glad you think the bluff is good tho, MSNL is goooooood.

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first hand was awfully playwed by me, doesnt hurt to admit that, i knews it was a situation where ud put me on a better hand then ur second pair which was practially face up. Glad ur so embarassed that u feel the need to defend urself so much.

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I am EXTRAORDINARILY embarrassed that I thought you were decent.

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Old 08-31-2007, 02:54 PM
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everyone thinks its such an easy call after they see the HH

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lemme give you a hint. no one has ever gotten rich by bluffing AEMFJ. glad you enjoyed your moment in the sun, though.

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Ya i think i played i well, the intent was to confuse him obv and it worked

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97% of the time I call there. The fact you just stuck a bunch of money in with second pair top kicker on a three to a straight board (snap call btw lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl) made me think you wouldn't bluff me.

People who are dumb enough to bluff me usually end up broke.

TBH, I was just ending a short session and was just closing out tables and going WTF is going on in this hand.

I'm glad you think the bluff is good tho, MSNL is goooooood.

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first hand was awfully playwed by me, doesnt hurt to admit that, i knews it was a situation where ud put me on a better hand then ur second pair which was practially face up. Glad ur so embarassed that u feel the need to defend urself so much.

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I am EXTRAORDINARILY embarrassed that I thought you were decent.

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but he WON THE MILLION
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: FUH KIN WIERD

For hand 1, why'd you call flop?
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:34 PM
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For hand 1, why'd you call flop?

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tryin to his two pair or three of a kind or a backdoor flush, i felt it
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: FUH KIN WIERD

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You have ripped ActionJackson's line, so what line would you suggest for him if he had KQ no club and/or KQ one club instead of a bluff?

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I ask because you said and others that you would call in this spot 95% of the time, but based on timing tells, bet size, etc. you made a rare fold in this spot. Others agree that a call was in order. So, to me this line doesnt seem so horrible for a KQ club or no club hand. It value raises the flop and then pot controls the turn and value bets the river. Its probably not standard but I would like to know why it would be a horrible way to play a TPGK. Had you called (as you normally would)this line may have extracted max value from a hand like yours.
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