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Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
OK kids. Same deal, Part 2.
Rules [ QUOTE ] * 1) No flaming Collin, or anyone else. Save the flaming of Collin for the Official STTF SNG Book Review Thread and your general flaming for the Castro Street Fair. * 2) No unsubstantiated useless answers, even if they're right. If you say something, support it with something else. To phrase that differently: no one-word answers in the vending machine please. * 3) No posting copyrighted material. Just assume everyone has the book and say things like "In hand 1-x, I think..." rather than posting the entire hand. My understanding is that posting a few sentences is OK. Posting an entire paragraph or hand is not. * 4) No being a jerk. This is thread for beginners so there might be a lot of questions that seem stupid to more advanced players. If the stupidity of the questions is making you mad, stop reading the thread and go chat-berate some fish for a while until you feel calmer. [/ QUOTE ] My initial review is in the Official STTF book review thread. In the 2+2 Magazine forum, DevinLake's thread shows good analysis of several hands. I'd like to use Hand 2-32 as an example since ([img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]) I've already worked through it to some extent. The discussion here will be more complex than Part 1. If you're not sure about the mechanics of STT prize pool equity calculations, check out the Part 1 study group thread for a good example. Hand 2-4 has effectively been discussed in STTF here. |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
Devin's link to the hands in his post is not working [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Do you know where to find them??
I got the jist of what was happening from Devin's Post tho. I generally if re-stealing like to have atleast 4-6 times there bet meaning 12-18BB's. As my stack approaches 10, my range tightens considerably. Also I'm assuming as this is referring to Mid Blind play ante's have not kicked in yet, yo? Or does MBP still include the 100/200/25 level? |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
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Devin's link to the hands in his post is not working [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Do you know where to find them?? [/ QUOTE ] google cache |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
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Also I'm assuming as this is referring to Mid Blind play ante's have not kicked in yet, yo? Or does MBP still include the 100/200/25 level? [/ QUOTE ] I started disliking Harrington's M a lot less after working through a bunch of Stars hands at the 100/200/25 level. It's still fairly rare to see a situation where the stacks are even enough that players face a lot of non-push/fold decisions, but it does come up sometimes. With six players, M=6.67 at the 100/200/A25 is a stack of t3000, so that will be an even less common situation than M=6.67 (10 BB or t2000) at 100/200. All of the good analytical techniques are totally independent of whether or not there is an ante in play anyway. |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
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No being a jerk. This is thread for beginners so there might be a lot of questions that seem stupid to more advanced players. [/ QUOTE ] Here's one of these questions: I think I play good during low levels and pretty good late on the bubble or close to it. I'm having trouble bridging the gap between these two stages though. I know when to steal and am learning when and against who to resteal, but when technically does the mid-blind phase start and end? It's obvious on Stars it's when the BB reaches T100, but I play on FT where the blinds increase more smoothly. Where does it start at FT? Still at T100? Also does the high blind phase auto-start when either my stack or the other stacks reach 10BB? |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
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[ QUOTE ] No being a jerk. This is thread for beginners so there might be a lot of questions that seem stupid to more advanced players. [/ QUOTE ] Here's one of these questions: I think I play good during low levels and pretty good late on the bubble or close to it. I'm having trouble bridging the gap between these two stages though. I know when to steal and am learning when and against who to resteal, but when technically does the mid-blind phase start and end? It's obvious on Stars it's when the BB reaches T100, but I play on FT where the blinds increase more smoothly. Where does it start at FT? Still at T100? Also does the high blind phase auto-start when either my stack or the other stacks reach 10BB? [/ QUOTE ] I'd say "high blinds" start when your effective stack is less than 10BB, either because that's where your stack is already, or if everyone left to act has less than 10BB because then your effective stack is less than 10BB. Mid-blind is, in fact, a quite tricky and read-based segment of the game. |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
Slim maybe worth posting this at the start of the thread so we don't have the same discussion from last one.
In a 9 handed SNG with t1500 start bank [ QUOTE ] How I view blind levels, Early: 10/20 + 15/30 Middle: 25/50 - 100/200/25 Big: 200/400+ [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
[ QUOTE ]
Slim maybe worth posting this at the start of the thread so we don't have the same discussion from last one. In a 9 handed SNG with t1500 start bank [ QUOTE ] How I view blind levels, Early: 10/20 + 15/30 Middle: 25/50 - 100/200/25 Big: 200/400+ [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Well, I don't think it's that simple. You always have to be thinking about your effective stack IMHO. |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
What's the most common mistakes the more experienced players out there see amongst the fish that we should learn to avoid during these stages?
1. I often see people making thin calls for a large portion of their stack that will often cripple them if they lose. 2. Playing Speculative hands badly and overcommitting with them. 3. Mistaking chip EV for Tournament EV. Hopefully this should spawn some conversation even if it is flaming of me. Any other prominent mistakes evident in this level. |
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Re: Sit \'n Go Strategy study group -- Part 2: Mid Blind Play
I still see a TON of people overplaying things like AJ or KQ here. UTG or UTG+1 is still no place for these hands, and at mid-level we're certainly not in push/fold mode.
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