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Old 11-07-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default 200nl: combo draw

how's my line? potter is 18/9

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $27
CO: $192
Hero (BTN): $227.40
SB: $206.60
BB: $320.45
UTG: $341.95
UTG+1: $230.40
MP1: $72.65

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, MP2 calls $2, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="red">SB raises to $10</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($34) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $33</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $217.40 and is All-In</font>,
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

I like it....

I think worst case scenario you are 50-50 except if SB was planning to check raise a set.

Folding equity is big so I like the shove
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

let me start of by saying this is the exact play i would make in the same spot but heres my one thought, how are u playing a set in this situation verse a pot bet, against an unknown this question doesnt really matter but against regulars they will see this line as a draw hand a lot and if u flat with big hands here then when u do a lot of smart openents will shut down, so i love this shove but u have to make the same shove with a monster once in a while (especially against aggressive regs who will see this as a draw a lot and snap call u with JJ+)
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

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let me start of by saying this is the exact play i would make in the same spot but heres my one thought, how are u playing a set in this situation verse a pot bet, against an unknown this question doesnt really matter but against regulars they will see this line as a draw hand a lot and if u flat with big hands here then when u do a lot of smart openents will shut down, so i love this shove but u have to make the same shove with a monster once in a while (especially against aggressive regs who will see this as a draw a lot and snap call u with JJ+)

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QFT

just save the set-shoving for regs, and as long as you show down a few this play is good
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

There's no difference between raising to $100 and raising to $200. Raise to whatever you would raise to with a set.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

I sort of think that a pot sized raise is scarier. But maybe that's just me. Anything folding to a shove is also folding to a pot-sized raise. In then end, you may fold out a couple of more hands with the pot sized raise. Either way, big raise, get the money in the middle. Draw well.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: combo draw

I'd probably raise to like $110 because I don't shove a set here.

If you shove a set this is fine.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:27 PM
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I'd probably raise to like $110 because I don't shove a set here.

If you shove a set this is fine.

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I usually don't like shoving ip. I think a pot size bet will do the same.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:38 PM
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I'd probably raise to like $110 because I don't shove a set here.

If you shove a set this is fine.

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nobody ever shoves a set here. you might once in a blue moon for metagame purposes, but you're folding out so many hands.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:03 PM
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I'd probably raise to like $110 because I don't shove a set here.

If you shove a set this is fine.

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SABR has it right...the shove looks like a draw. Raise enough to commit yourself, but don't shove.
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