Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > MTT Strategy

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:59 PM
Gar Pike Gar Pike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 233
Default 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

4/180, blinds 50/100, Me with 1450 UTG, villian in SB with 3200-ish

UTG with QJ suited. I...?

Let's say I limp, 2 more limp and villian (active, almost always comes in for min raise) completes, BB calls.

Flop is A Q 6, with A and 6 of my suit.

I...?

Pot is 500, let's say I bet 250 and all fold to Villian, who raises to 750.


I...?

I have 30%-ish of my stack in the hand already. I put Villian on AX, K9-K8, Q9, Q8, J9, JT, suited no-gappers down to 45, suited one-gapper to 97s. I think he would have raised a better hand PF and folded worse. Unless he's being tricky with AA,KK...

Regards

Gar
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:08 PM
r987r r987r is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 449
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

fold preflop, bet 1/2 pot, insta push
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:21 PM
erc007 erc007 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 769
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

This is an easy shove for value. With a pair+FD you have good equity against the vast majority of his range. You're 50% against a hand like AT. With your stack u want to get it in on the flop, so if you're OOP check, with the intent to c/r AI over any bet. If u are in position u can raise/call, or shove if the lead is a PSB. U have to add some FE for shoving to be EV+ against most of his range. The fact that the A on the board is your suit as well makes it much less likely that one of your opponents has a bigger FD, so giving a free card is not bad here either.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Steals gone bad
Posts: 536
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

QJ UTG you should be insta-folding even if you were deep. At 15 BBs, it's even worse. You simply can't justify limping here.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:30 PM
ZenMusician ZenMusician is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Are the Queens called Quoons?
Posts: 1,412
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

[ QUOTE ]
QJ UTG you should be insta-folding even if you were deep. At 15 BBs, it's even worse. You simply can't justify limping here.

[/ QUOTE ]

At a passive table, QJs...I'm limping deeper than 20M

-ZEN
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:41 PM
levAA levAA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Black Pearl
Posts: 1,202
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

fold preflop

check flop with the intention to check/raise all in
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-12-2007, 04:47 PM
jtomon jtomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 547
Default Re: 4/180 Mid pair/flush draw raised.

[ QUOTE ]
QJ UTG you should be insta-folding even if you were deep. At 15 BBs, it's even worse. You simply can't justify limping here.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.