Ban effect on CP?

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I'm fairly anti-government, but this is a public health issue. I feel the government is well within its right to tell a minority of the population that they can't go around giving cancer and heart disease to anybody who happens to be in a public place when they want to feed their drug addiction. Besides, these things are voted upon somewhere. They're not executive orders.

I also wouldn't be upset if someone made a law prohibiting heroin addicts from sticking me with needles.

Really, all of you with the various anti-ban arguments and talking about free market, etc... look at all the areas who did this decades ago. Been there. It's better with a ban, it really is.

Just think of it this way... as a customer you have freedom and a choice to go somewhere else. As an employee, not so much. "Oh, get another job!" Uh, yeah, sure, but if almost everywhere has smoking because they're afraid to annoy some nic-fitting addicts, where do these people go? Uproot and move somewhere else? What kind of productive effect will that have?

Bans are good. Embrace them. EVERYTHING smells better.

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Bans are good. Embrace them.

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I agree, ban all those whiney non-smokers from the poker room, problem solved. As far as your 2nd hand smoke comment that is truly laughable.

Why not ban people who smell bad too? Or (insert your least favorite non-English speaking people) who want to tell bad beat stories in broken English, that does drive me crazy too and is bad for my mental health. Do we also ban people from eating unhealthy food at the tables? Let's not forget banning those that fail to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

Less government intervention is better, your best solution is sticking to the internet. Oh wait, the government is trying to find a way to ban that too aren't they?


Jimbo

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Why not ban people who smell bad too?

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Sometimes they do.

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Or (insert your least favorite non-English speaking people) who want to tell bad beat stories in broken English, that does drive me crazy too and is bad for my mental health.

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Earplugs.

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Do we also ban people from eating unhealthy food at the tables?

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That's their own choice and little impact on my immediate health or laundry bills.

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Let's not forget banning those that fail to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

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Really, people should wash their hands before they use the bathroom, considering they've been handling chips, cards, and money all day.

I really don't see how any of your strawmen have anything to do with the topic at hand. I also don't whine about smokers. I play in home games with them because I choose to. I also went to a casino this weekend that allows smoking. I would not, however, ever work in one. I am lucky to live in area that realizes how ridiculous it is to give special privledge to addicts in such a way that negatively and immediately affects everybody else, but in a service economy, forcing service personnel to suffer smoke 8-12 hours a day is rude at best.

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Why not ban people who smell bad too?

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Sometimes they do.

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Or (insert your least favorite non-English speaking people) who want to tell bad beat stories in broken English, that does drive me crazy too and is bad for my mental health.

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Earplugs.

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Do we also ban people from eating unhealthy food at the tables?

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That's their own choice and little impact on my immediate health or laundry bills.

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Let's not forget banning those that fail to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

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Really, people should wash their hands before they use the bathroom, considering they've been handling chips, cards, and money all day.

I really don't see how any of your strawmen have anything to do with the topic at hand. I also don't whine about smokers. I play in home games with them because I choose to. I also went to a casino this weekend that allows smoking. I would not, however, ever work in one. I am lucky to live in area that realizes how ridiculous it is to give special privledge to addicts in such a way that negatively and immediately affects everybody else, but in a service economy, forcing service personnel to suffer smoke 8-12 hours a day is rude at best.

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First of all you need to look up the definition of a straw man arguement. Next if your solution to save my mental health is earplugs then my soultion would be an oxygen mask for the non-smokers.

Since I've played B&M poker longer than you have been alive and never seen or heard of any poker player ever being banned because he smelled bad I'm confident my experience trumps your anecdote.

Please explain further how smoking is more dangerous to you than me pissing on my hands then handing you already dirty poker chips. Every 2nd hand smoke theory is dangerous for you has been either debunked or had inherent flaws in its' control situation in the first place. Granted smoke can be annoying even to other smokers but stating it is more dangerous to you than my personal waste products being transferred to your person is over the top.

Jimbo

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I'm sorry that my asthma offends you. I'm sorry that my desire not to smell like an ashtray also offends you.

I've seen the list of people banned or otherwise notated in my cardroom. One of them is to be told to bathe before coming in. I don't know what else to tell you on that one.

This whole smoking ban thing has been done over and over for the past twenty years. Even the smokers like it. It's just so silly watching addicts fume. Oh well, at least I can outrun you, even with my asthma.

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Please explain further how smoking is more dangerous to you than me pissing on my hands then handing you already dirty poker chips. Every 2nd hand smoke theory is dangerous for you has been either debunked or had inherent flaws in its' control situation in the first place. Granted smoke can be annoying even to other smokers but stating it is more dangerous to you than my personal waste products being transferred to your person is over the top.

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Urine is sterile. You should wipe your ass with your cards before you fold them.

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I'm sorry that my asthma offends you. I'm sorry that my desire not to smell like an ashtray also offends you.

I've seen the list of people banned or otherwise notated in my cardroom. One of them is to be told to bathe before coming in. I don't know what else to tell you on that one.

This whole smoking ban thing has been done over and over for the past twenty years. Even the smokers like it. It's just so silly watching addicts fume. Oh well, at least I can outrun you, even with my asthma.

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Hidden B&M no-smoking benefit: more people going outside to smoke = more time playing shorthanded.

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I just wanted to chime in and say I ALWAYS wash my hands -before- using the bathroom. Those chips are so disgusting...