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Old 10-09-2007, 09:09 PM
MVPaul MVPaul is offline
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Default 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

On the previous hand, I had pushed all-in to steal a preflop minraise from a guy who made it 2xbb in all pots that were unopened to him and won uncontested. Apart from that my image is probably tight and no reads on villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t5730)
Button (t1855)
SB (t2180)
BB (t4730)
UTG (t4235)
UTG+1 (t2285)
MP1 (t3390)
MP2 (t4330)
MP3 (t695)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t4705</font>, Hero...

I for sure could find some better spots but I'm getting nearly 2:1...
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

Call, could be re-steal. Pretty sure you get 2:1 against even a pretty tight range.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.903% 36.10% 00.80% 35233020 784390.50 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 63.097% 62.29% 00.80% 60799527 784390.50 { 77+, AQs+, AKo }
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

really easy call, esp since you raised from LP. If you say raised from EP this might be a fold (although id never do it). With the stacks after you, I would probably just push preflop, although I am pretty trigger happy with allins (prob would push this from UTG if im multi tabling )
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

I do not agree that this is an easy call. Vs normal tight and straightforward player this is a fold. Vs some i d snap call A8 here.

P.s Bet 900.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

Tomek, I understand your line, I think it's much more +EV the higher the stakes we play, but this tourney is so full of players that never do this without TT+/AK/AQ. Unless this is the guy that's been minraising every hand or a good read, I think this is a fold. IMHO With 15 bb's, ignoring our seat equity is a mistake, The $12's have a high % of players that have us dominated here as the resteal is not a frequently seen play.

Unless it's a read, that raise is too big PF 750&lt;&lt;800 (anymore it's accepted as norm) /fold.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

This is a call, I don't see this being a monster only. I think tomek's range is pretty close here.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:32 AM
ChipSpeak ChipSpeak is offline
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

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This is a call, I don't see this being a monster only. I think tomek's range is pretty close here.

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His tight range is much more accurate in this tourney, so I agree.

His range has us requiring 2:1 when we are not quite getting it. I can't say I've seen a ton of restealing going on in these and I've played quite a few recently. If we remove a high % of resteals, and consider our remaining stack, I don't see a need to get it in here.

P.S. If it's Friday or Saturday night, I snap call (not kidding)
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

Raise to 800 pre...u have 37% equity vs. a range of: 77+;AJs+;KQs;AQo+...so calling is slightly EV+ if this range is reasonable.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

We're getting ~1.64:1 or 38%.

Hand 0: 62.114% 55.83% 06.28% 286799352 32275128.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 37.886% 31.60% 06.28% 162341592 32275128.00 { AJs }


So even vs what I think is maybe a slightly tight range vs an unknown here you're about breakeven to call.


The biggest problem I see with this hand is not having a plan. You should know whether you'll call a shove or not before you raise (and sometimes adjust your raise size accordingly). I'm also not a fan of the raise size with any intention of folding to bb's shove.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 : AJs in CO faces BB all-in

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We're getting ~1.64:1 or 38%.

Hand 0: 62.114% 55.83% 06.28% 286799352 32275128.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 37.886% 31.60% 06.28% 162341592 32275128.00 { AJs }


So even vs what I think is maybe a slightly tight range vs an unknown here you're about breakeven to call.


The biggest problem I see with this hand is not having a plan. You should know whether you'll call a shove or not before you raise (and sometimes adjust your raise size accordingly). I'm also not a fan of the raise size with any intention of folding to bb's shove.

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Pot with blinds an antes (25) = 675 pre+1000+700(call)+4000(raise)=6375/3000=2.12/1?...is this correct?
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